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paul Member Posts: 10 From: Newcastle upon Tyne Registered: Jan 2000 |
Just spotted a Yairi Ragtime guitar in the local music store, small bodied with a great sound. I've never seen or heard of them, any recommendations from you knowledgable folk? It was going for £600 of our Queens pounds, is this good value? IP: Logged |
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Tim Mitchell unregistered |
I am the proud owner of an Alvarez Yari DY61 that I love. I dont know how many pounds are in a dollar, so I cant help you on price, but I have had mine for 10 years and have loved it every day. IP: Logged |
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paul Member Posts: 10 From: Newcastle upon Tyne Registered: Jan 2000 |
Thanks Tim for the vote of confidence, I put it on the credit card and bought it! Can't seem to put it down, just want to play all the time. IP: Logged |
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yairiguru unregistered |
I don't think you could go wrong with a Yairi....if you are interested in joining our new Yairi discussion group, point your browser to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yairiguitars/ Dave IP: Logged |
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Tom Austin Member Posts: 3404 From: Occidental, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 |
I've got an Alvarez-Yairi YB1 Baritone. GREAT guitar. I don't know why more people don't make acoustic baritones. Santa Cruz, National, Yairi, and various small luthiers make them, but that's about it as far as I know. IP: Logged |
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Lovat Fraser unregistered |
Nice catch Paul, I bought a small body Yari a year ago ..the only other guitar I have bought in 10 years was a Hula Blues Dobro...after all as they say in India " How many shoes can you wear at once". I tried the Yari out (£600+ Hiscox case,haggled down from £800) against a Martin Clapton signature (£2K) .The Martin was like dead matchwood in comparison. My Yari has a great spread of sound , all strings ringing out true in balance,and it really pushes the sound out. After a year it is now only needing a neck adjust, but don't be fooled by the lightness of the body my Yari has seen some serious road work and performed beautifully. adios, IP: Logged |
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Eddie Punch Member Posts: 1361 From: Freiburg, Germany Registered: Nov 1999 |
Hi Lovat Is Martin Clapton Eric Claptons brother ? Eddie IP: Logged |
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Lovat Fraser unregistered |
Eddie, Are you up for Amsterdam in July , you ol' viper.And you can show me what you can cook up on that hub cap banjo. adios, IP: Logged |
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Eddie Punch Member Posts: 1361 From: Freiburg, Germany Registered: Nov 1999 |
Ah ha, Amsterdam ? don't tempt me. Ah go on, try... Actualy I'm more of a lizard than a viper. OK ! Amsterdam it is ! Eddie IP: Logged |
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Lovat Fraser unregistered |
Dream about a reefer five foot long, the mighty Mezz , but not too strong. You'll get high and so will I. When youse a Viper... adios, IP: Logged |
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Big Dave unregistered |
Hi folks, I have owned a Yairi DY61 for going on 10 years. I just seems to get better as time goes on. It is a signature model, slope shouldered dreadnought with a solid spruce top with book matched solid burled mahogany back and sides (gorgeous and 3 dimensional), wood binding, mother of pearl inlays, a mahogany neck, an ebony fretboard and gold hardware. I love this guitar. There is no plastic anywhere on it. The nut is bone. It was pretty cool how I acquired it. I had always wanted a Yairi since I saw and played one my friend had back in the early 70's. I found one for sale (about $700) in a music shop window around 1995. It was pretty much the same model that I have now, not a signature model, and for some reason the bridge was kinda wierdly reversed. Anyway I put some money down and finally paid it off. I noticed that it had a square darker spot on the top like a for sale sign was on it and the sun and been baking down on it for a long time. Then I noticed that there was a crack along the heel of the neck. Since the instrument had a lifetime guarantee I took it back to the shop. They sent it home to the manufacturer. A few weeks later they called me and told me that it couldn't be repaired and offered me a replacement. They gave me a list of guitars that I could have, but none of them were the same model. So I told them I wanted basically the same model. They told me that they didn't make it anymore, but had the signature model that retailed for $1500 and that they would send it to me for an upgrade charge of $50.00! So, obviously I went for it. That's what I call great customer service! In the mean time I won a $50.00 gift certificate from the same music shop. So that paid for it. All I can say is that Mr. Yari makes a really fine instrument. He knows his woods and evidently has his own old wood stockpile. He's been making guitars since he was young and he is an old man now. If you get the chance to buy a guitar from him. You will not be disappointed. IP: Logged |
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Oldtimefingerpicker Member Posts: 3 From: Buffalo, NY USA Registered: Mar 2004 |
To disagree with all that has been said in praise of Yairi guitars.... Check out the new Blueridge vintage style ooo size guitars from Saga Musical Instruments 100% solid woods. scallopped top braces and great tone and volume. List prices start aroud $650.0 US Dollars. I own a pre war 000-Martin and think these Blueridge models are great, especially when compared to new similar Martins. Ed Old Time finger picker IP: Logged |
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Big Dave unregistered |
That's nice, but how does that negate the quality and value of the Yairis? IP: Logged |
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DWS Member Posts: 25 From: Registered: Dec 2003 |
Is Alvarez Yari the same as Yari? I seem to recall hearing that there were actual Yari guitars, hand built in Japan, then the Alvarez one, which are factory built under license....can´any one clear this up and also if there is a difference which guitars are the ones you guys are raving about? IP: Logged |
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DWS Member Posts: 25 From: Registered: Dec 2003 |
After some searching, I found this link to the Yairi home page. Looks as if Alvarez is the (cheaper) divison of Yari....They offer a wide range of guitars...The rag guitar is in the Yari Artist section -does look very nice... http://www.yairi.co.jp/index.shtml IP: Logged |
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David Kampmann Member Posts: 1230 From: Copenhagen, Denmark Registered: Jun 2003 |
Here's where I usually make a shameless plug for my Yairi rag6-14F, so here goes: I play it a lot, and it's got a very strong and snappy sound for such a small-bodied guitar. It projects very nicely indeed. David. IP: Logged |
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Eric Cone Member Posts: 70 From: Warwick, New York, USA Registered: Aug 2001 |
I've had a Yairi DY-87 for years. It's a double neck 6 & 12 string monster with very nice tone. I use it mostly for slack key. I've never seen another one like it. IP: Logged |
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Finn Bjerke Member ![]() Posts: 2614 From: www.finnbjerke.dk Registered: Apr 2000 |
I own a Bozo 6 stringed guitar. Nice sound great neck. It turns out that the Yairi people began the factory by producing Bozo guitars in Japan on License. http://guitars.net/bozojapan.htm In the late 1970's Bozo was approached by Kazuo Yairi, more recently of Alvarez-Yairi fame and contracted with him to produce a series of guitars designed by Bozo, but to be built in Japan under license. There was about a year and a half production run with models very similar to the masters' hand made US models more here: http://www.guitars.net/bozo.htm [This message has been edited by Finn Bjerke (edited March 13, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Cellofello44 unregistered |
I bought a Yairi guitar in 1968 for $700. I used it for years and then my own children used it to learn to play guitar. Last fall this wonderful guitar was stolen from my classroom. The juvenile authorities and others keep asking me to produce evidence of the worth of the guitar so that insurance money can replace it or the "culprit" can pay resitution. I don't have any paper work. It's been 35 years and 4 moves! Besides I don't want to replace it. I want my guitar back. (yes, I've asked the prosecutor and the defense attorney to ask the kid who stole it to tell where it is!) Anyway, my question is...How do I provide proof of it's worth? I don't have it in my possession to give serial numbers etc. I don't know what model it was. Any suggestions? IP: Logged |
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Cellofello44 unregistered |
I bought a Yairi guitar in 1968 for $700. I used it for years and then my own children used it to learn to play guitar. Last fall this wonderful guitar was stolen from my classroom. The juvenile authorities and others keep asking me to produce evidence of the worth of the guitar so that insurance money can replace it or the "culprit" can pay resitution. I don't have any paper work. It's been 35 years and 4 moves! Besides I don't want to replace it. I want my guitar back. (yes, I've asked the prosecutor and the defense attorney to ask the kid who stole it to tell where it is!) Anyway, my question is...How do I provide proof of it's worth? I don't have it in my possession to give serial numbers etc. I don't know what model it was. Any suggestions? IP: Logged |
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PMichael Member Posts: 129 From: Fredonia, New York, USA Registered: Apr 2004 |
Hey, Finn ... ya got a Bozo! I used to have one and wish I still did. "Handmade Guitar Heaven" Wayzata MN ... years ago. The travelling guitar scout brought back a Bozo 12-string for Leo K and a 6 string to sell. I played Leo's 12 string before he saw it, and bought the other. Handmade by Bozo, not the Japanese versions. I guess he got black lung very shortly after that. Wonderful guitar it was. Huge sound all the way across, bright clean and even, and the bass was clear and strong. No thumpety mud. I also bought a Kohno classical which I stil have. I play acoustic blues/ragtime type stuff all on nylon now. IP: Logged |
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paulw Member Posts: 1 From: maryland Registered: Apr 2004 |
actually, and i think i have this right, the alavarez name is only added to the us models because of a distribuiton agreement with st. louis music. elsewhere they are just sold as yairi. i had martin stephenson stay at the house last summer and he brought a parlor sized yairi called a rag 8 with him. what a sweet little guitar, never seen anything like it in the us. i personally have owned an anniversary edition dy85 since 1977 which is gorgeous and is the most trouble free guitar, despite massive gingerbread, that i have ever owned. cheers paul IP: Logged |
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William Sykes New Member Posts: 1 From: Nampa, ID, USA Registered: Feb 2005 |
Hello All, I have owned a Yairi DY-74C since I bought it new in 1979. It has aged well and the tone is really well balanced yet projects really well. It is a cutaway model, spruce top and I believe rosewood sides and back, ebony fretboard on mahogany neck. It is an acoustic model. I paid $550.00 w/case at the time and think it would probably compare to an 800.00/900.00 equivalent at todays prices. At the time I played everything in the store, Guilds, Gibsons, Fenders, Ovations and Martins but for the money I thought the Yairi out performed the others in sound quality and playabilty. All Yairis' are hand made by the master luthier himself or at least overseen by him throughout the construction. Not all Alvarez guitars can make the same claim. IP: Logged |
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wildbillw Member Posts: 1126 From: IDAHO,USA Registered: Jan 2005 |
After much researching I settled on a Yari, hand crafted DY-62C, cedar top burled mahogany back and sides. The burled mahogany is so amazingly 3D. The sound is mellow and full. I love it. The only thing I would change is the neck witdh were I to shop again. I play a lot of figerstyle and the 1 3/4" neck at the nut would be nice. It was an interesting purchase. I had just received a bonus and was driving downtown when Mike at the music store called me to say he had just received the Yari. I was about a block away from the store at the time, made a right turn into the parking lot, entered the store as he was unpacking the guitar. We pulled it out of the case and I bought it on the spot. I was the first one to lay hands on it, sort of a virgin guitar. wb IP: Logged |
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ron_Ohio New Member Posts: 2 From: Cleves, Ohio, USA Registered: Feb 2005 |
I own a CY115 Classical Guitar(#560 of 600) made. I was trying to do some research on it to find its value. I'm not looking to sell it, just curious. I really love its Rich sound especialy in the low strings. Any info would be appreciated.. I'm having trouble finding any info even from Alvarez. --
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Stevie Member Posts: 70 From: Tampa, Fla, USA Registered: Feb 2005 |
quote: There are also S. Yairi guitars out there. Made by Sada Yairi, father of "Yairi & Sons"(?) I don't know the true relationship between Sada and Kazuo Yairi, Father or Uncle. What I do know is in the mid '70s S. Yairi began delivering handmade Martin style dreads and parlor guitars to the US market. I have a 1975 750 (D35 style). It has aged wonderfully and I hope to do a side by side comparison with a 1951 Martin D18 come summer. The people that have them prize them greatly. I have an ad that profiles Sada Yari(circa 1975) at that time he was reported in his seventies. It is difficult to sort "urban legend" from fact within this family. I've had a friend (native speaking Japanese) research the Japanese internet to no avail. IP: Logged |
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Blackbird Member ![]() Posts: 244 From: Auckland, New Zealand Registered: Aug 2004 |
I live in Japan, so I've had a look at these guitars, and I'm seriously considering getting a K Yairi RAG also. K Yairi guitars are still made in Japan to probably a better standard than Martin or Taylor. K Yairi is famous for using very low-tech, traditional and handy-type methods, and he still oversees each guitar himself. The guitars look stunning, though to be honest the high end instruments are a little over-ornamented for my taste. All the K Yairi guitars I've seen are as good as any Martin or Taylor, and much better in terms of finish and individuality, providing you don't mind all the abalone! As for S Yairi, these days the new guitars with his name are a little more budget, about the same as a Yamaha but with solid tops and more detail, comparatively. I don't know if they're made in Japan, but from the price I'd guess Korea or Taiwan. They're nice enough guitars, and made to a good standard. I think these guitars are only available Japan/Asia. I think K Yairi and S Yairi are brothers. IP: Logged |
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Jeff H Member Posts: 74 From: Registered: Aug 2000 |
I owned a Sadeo Yairi 12 fret 00 slot head in spruce and Mahogany. Built in the late sixties of superior build to an equivalent time period Martin. Stupidly sold it. LAter I owned a 1971 S. Yairi Classe 800 (one from the top of the I also have a 72 Classe 600 S. Yairi classical. Also a very fine It is my understanding that K and S Yairi were related but either The S Yairis appeared to me to be more "hands on" built than K. Yairi Jeff IP: Logged |
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Stevie Member Posts: 70 From: Tampa, Fla, USA Registered: Feb 2005 |
I think there is a difference between Sada Yairi and Sadeo Yairi, not sure but if Sada was in his 70's in the 70's he'd be pretty old now. I kinda got the impression that Sadeo and Kazuo were cousins. Can you verify any of this Blackbird? I really liked the new bridge implementation K. Yairi is using. Makes a lot of sense structurally(strings enter through an oval in the top and are anchored in the bridge UNDERNEATH the top). Let's see how they survive. IP: Logged |
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youngphil Member Posts: 50 From: Kingsbridge, Devon.UK Registered: May 2005 |
I have a beautiful S.Yairi dreadnought No: N401 dated 1984 which I bought in Paris in '85 for 2000 francs (about £200). With its herringbone binding it looks (and sounds) like a Martin D28 and has been greatly admired through the years. As one of your contributers said - Mr Yairi knew his woods and made very nice guitars. IP: Logged |
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Hootsma Member Posts: 20 From: Jacksonville, FL Registered: Apr 2005 |
My luthier is a Yairi dealer and I have been picking his brain for awhile about the Yairi's. He informed me that Kazuo is Sada's son. Back in the 70's while other guitar companies were trying to expand (Martin, Gibson...etc) Sada sent his son Kazuo out with a barge to travel the world collecting wood. That trip created a tremendous inventory of wood that is still supplying wood for their guitars. Kazuo has now taken over the manufacturing process and still follows the same age old hand crafting procedures taught to him by his father. No computers, no machines, no assembly line. All Yairi guitars are handmade by one luthier and overseen by Kazuo Yairi himself. The association of Yairi and Alvarez is related to an import and distribution deal between the two. There are no manufacturing differences between an Alvarez Yairi and a non-Alvarez Yairi. The only difference is their intended destination. After rereading my post, I sound like a manufacturers rep. I am not. Sorry to come across that way. I just really like their story and their guitars. I own a DY 57 and I am probably going to order a custom job soon. I've played a bunch of other guitars, but the Yairis just do something for me. I hope that clears up some of the myth and confusion. Robert IP: Logged |
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ruth New Member Posts: 1 From: Cardiff, South Wales, UK Registered: Jun 2005 |
I bought my S Yairi new (and half-price at £120) in 1982, because it sounded better than any of the others in the shop - and it still does, although I don't play it nearly as much as I should. I've only recently started researching it out of sheer curiosity; I've never seen another of them, and no-one seemed to have heard of them until I found this site. I've no idea what wood it's made from, but it's numbered WH50 23368, dated 1981, and is stamped inside Does anyone have any idea of its history, quality and value? Ruth [This message has been edited by ruth (edited 06-03-2005).] IP: Logged |
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Wade Hampton Miller Member Posts: 102 From: Chugiak, Alaska, USA Registered: Mar 2005 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Martin Company were to come out with one by the 2006 or 2007 Winter NAMM show. There's a growing interest in the instrument, there are a number of string sets available for it now, and it's moved out of the tiny fringe of acoustic guitar crazies like me (with my 1999 McAlister acoustic baritone) somewhat closer to the mainstream. I should emphasize that I have NO insider knowledge of whether this is being considered by Martin, but they're very smart people in that firm, and they watch the high end acoustic guitar market quite closely. Once they decide they can sell fifty or sixty of them, possibly as an artist signature model, Martin will probably produce an acoustic baritone guitar. And if the signature model sells well, in another year or two they'd probably start selling "16 Series" and all-mahogany "15 Series" baritones, as well. In other words, Martin's normal pattern is to introduce something this specialized as a high dollar model for the "just gotta have it" crowd, then if it does well it'll be made available at a lower price for the rest of us. I hope they do come out with one, but I may be premature predicting it as arriving within a couple of years. --
Wade Hampton Miller Chugiak, Alaska Check out some of my friends' sites, if you like: McAlister Guitars; John Pearse Strings; IP: Logged |
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jackal8 New Member Posts: 1 From: nothanks Registered: Sep 2005 |
my father has just igven me a s. yairi guitar hes had ti for a while after buying it for AU$300.. only recently i have decided to researchg it. the model number is YD - 401 and also says" on a nother board one poster said sada was kazuo's father and idea on the value of my new guitar would be much appreciated andrew IP: Logged |
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wendy4431 New Member Posts: 3 From: Rolling Meadows, IL USA Registered: Dec 2005 |
I've just purchased a 1973 Alvarez K. Yairi classical guitar model 5049 in absolutely pristine condition. Any ideas how much it's worth or other info on it? Its a beauty with abalone pegs and lots of inlay. It is in the original hard cover case and is signed by Kazou Yairi inside the guitar and on the paperwork. [This message has been edited by wendy4431 (edited 12-05-2005).] IP: Logged |
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trebleclef528 New Member Posts: 1 From: united kingdom Registered: Dec 2005 |
Hello, I have a Yairi 1965 B&M Soloist Serial No 298 (I think it's a 9 but it's written like a P) which I understand to be a very early and much sought after model. I would like to sell the guitar but have no idea of it's value. can you help? The condition is very good with no damage and only a couple of very minor and hard to see surface scratches. Thank You, IP: Logged |
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BobInFla New Member Posts: 2 From: Registered: Dec 2005 |
I just purchased a circa 1989 vintage Alvarez Yairi DY-87 cutaway 12-string on eBay but can't find much info on this type of guitar. 1) What years was the Alvarez Yairi DY-87 in production? 2) Was this a top-of-the-line model, an beginners model or middle-of-the road model? 3) Were sides and back of solid wood or laminated? Rosewood or Mahogany or other? 4) What was list price of the Alvarez Yairi DY-87 during its production run? Thanks. IP: Logged |
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fluffycatGS New Member Posts: 2 From: Registered: Jan 2006 |
Hello, I am trying to find information about this guitar I have. Label inside reads: "Handcrafted in Japan by Yairi - Model No.1450 Ad.1965 Serial No.494" After reading this discussion thread, I'm really confused! IP: Logged |
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Tom Austin Member Posts: 3404 From: Occidental, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 |
Tacoma's been making a production baritone for at least a couple of years now, and I just saw in Acoustic Guitar Magazine where Larrivée has come out with one, too. >>>>
I have played the Tacoma Thunderchief baritone in music stores. It's very nice, very lightly built. My YB1 is like a tank compared.
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phdouglas New Member Posts: 3 From: Frankfurt, Germany Registered: Feb 2006 |
quote: Hi, As far as I know this is a very early S. Yairi guitar. Sada Yairi was the cousin of the more famous K. Yairi, but in the opinion of most people Sada Yairi built finer guitars. I guess he was not technically a better guitar builder, just was more passionate about it and more committed, and therefore paid attention to the important details of how to bring the finest sound out of an instrument. This is all testified by K. Yairi selling out to Alvarez (that's how he became famous), whereas Sada Yairi tried to continue on his own (but eventually went bankrupt). The company was revived some years ago, but for me the only interesting guitars are the original S. Yairi. I have about a dozen of them ;-) All different models of steel and nylon string models. It all started with my first guitar teacher ... even back then in about 1970 ... my teacher told me the best value one could get in a guitar was an S. Yairi... and emphasised to me to be careful that I didn't buy a K. Yairi. Quote "K. Yairis are fine, but there are also lots of other brands out there just as good. If you really want an exceptional guitar for a reasonable price, go any buy yourself an S. Yairi.". I have some D-28, D-35 and D-45 type S. Yairis that sound equally as good as my equivalent Martins from the same era. Cheers! IP: Logged |
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