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Mojo
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posted 12-08-2000 15:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been on the hunt lately for an acceptable travel guitar. Tried the Martin Backpacker, didn't much like it for reasons of tone and feel. The Baby Taylor has pretty good sound and action, but is kind of frail and bulky, especially with its hard case.

Discovered one called the Vagabond and another called the Outbound at the following site:
www.guitardigest.com/art/5.html

Anyone out there have hands on knowlege of these instruments? Or any others that will meet the citeria. Which are: full scale length, tone, playability, portability, durability.

Any such thing as a metal body travel guitar?

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DayjobDave
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posted 12-08-2000 15:35           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Baby Taylor that came with a gig bag. I've carried it all over the US, with very limited abuse from United...it qualifies as carry on. Never had a problem with it...its a decent instrument, not spectacular, but not bad at all.

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posted 12-08-2000 15:44     Click Here to See the Profile for Guillaume     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I own a Baby Taylor, but mine came in a really nice gig bag, and I believe that's become the standard case for the baby. It's very light and convenient to carry around, especially on a plane (it will definitely fit in the overhead compartment). The guitar itself sounds amazing for the size, and I've been using it a lot for slide as the setup (relatively high action) lends itself well to that style of playing. I am even considering using the baby Taylor for some recording! I owned a 420 Taylor which I ended up selling. The sound was too bright and not that old time woody fingerstyle blues tone that I was looking for. You see that I'm not Taylor-biased, however, I can't say enough about the Baby.
As far as metal-body travel guitar, the only thing that comes to mind is a custom travel size resonator guitar made by Fine Resophonics, a maker of National-style resonator guitars based in France. Check them out at: http://www.chez.com/resophonic/

Good luck!

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Tim Mitchell
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posted 12-08-2000 16:02           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Martin backpacker with apx 100,000 miles on it. It doesnt sound great, and you have to play it standing up with the strap, but it is really portable. I am a big advocate of traveling as light as possible( I even convinced my boss I didnt need to carry a laptop, which is quite a feat considering I work for a software co) so that is the Martins greatest strenght. It is so light and so easy to carry, it makes it convinent enough that I never decide not to bring it.It is OK for slide, becuase the action is pretty high and stiff. Plus, it makes you that much happier to get home and play a real guitar :-)

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Jeffrey Sipress
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posted 12-08-2000 17:27     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeffrey Sipress   Click Here to Email Jeffrey Sipress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a Backpacker, but even after adding a custom pickguard so I could rest my pinky, I just didn't like it. I've sen the ads for the Outbound, and was looking for one before a trip last summer. Couldn't find one anywhere and time was running out, so I got a rosewood Larrivee parlor. What a wonderful little guitar. Full scale and 1.75" neck. Great tone and a very nice shoulder strapped gigbag. Walked right on the planes and no one even noticed it. A real quality instrument.

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Mojo
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posted 12-08-2000 18:05     Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the comebacks so far. A parlor model is one idea, for sure. They must not sell many of those Outbounds and Vagabonds, I've yet to find anybody who has owned one.

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Richard C.
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posted 12-08-2000 18:51           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Larrivee Parlor guitar, and am impressed with the quality and sound from this economical little instrument. It was reviewed by Acoustic Guitar magazine a few months ago, and compared favorably with the Baby Taylor. They mentioned its potential as a 'travel guitar,' and it also comes with a gig bag. I tried the Taylor, but the Larrivee has better sound (for me) and feels more like a full size.

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posted 12-08-2000 21:12           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto the Laravee. It deserves to cost $1000 more than it does. I can't imagine wanting a travel guitar and not buying it!

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posted 12-08-2000 22:41     Click Here to See the Profile for Hambone   Click Here to Email Hambone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a TommyHawk travel guitar which i love. it's short scale: only slightly larger than a ukelele, but it's wonderfully loud and sweet. the neck and body are carved from a single piece of mahogany. i vote for the Larivee without a doubt for a full scale. the Martin Backpacker is no good unless you have one with a pickup and use it thru an amp. otherwise it has no sound.

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Red Knob Bob
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posted 12-11-2000 12:00     Click Here to See the Profile for Red Knob Bob   Click Here to Email Red Knob Bob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another Tommyhawk owner here; did 5 years of international travel with it and love it. I actually met the luthier (Tom Barth) locally and gone on do some work with him; so yes I am biased. The construction is unique and it's built to last. Wouldn't give you a wooden nickel for any Backpacker I've played yet.

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posted 12-11-2000 15:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Kurt   Click Here to Email Kurt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The TommyHawk is the best! It's small, has a big sound, and the neck feels like a full size.

Tom Barth is a great guy. Here's his web site http://www.tommyhawk.com/

I've been playing my tommyhawk for about four years.

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Mojo
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posted 12-12-2000 14:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see the Tommyhawk has some fans. It looks nice, and compact. But I gotta wonder about that 17" scale. How is it playing up the neck with those close frets? And what about that standard-at-A tuning? Anybody tried putting a pickup on one?

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Phil Dollard
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posted 12-13-2000 06:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Phil Dollard   Click Here to Email Phil Dollard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vagabond owner here. I purchased mine a couple of years ago and took it as a 2nd instrument to IGS '99 at SC. I haven't played the Tommyhawk, but did shop around quite a bit and the Vagabond impressed me for all the reasons mentioned in above cited article. Teardrop shape projects more and is more comfortable than the awkward Backpacker. I ordered mine with a Martin thinline and it sounds great through my Trace Acoustic TA50. Heavy duty cordura gig bag has thick padding that offers more than adequate protection. I take it everywhere and have found it a sturdy instrument. Kevin Smith's # is 800-801-1341. Hope this helps.

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Mojo
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posted 12-13-2000 16:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Phil.

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John Bushouse
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posted 12-13-2000 16:43     Click Here to See the Profile for John Bushouse   Click Here to Email John Bushouse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guillaume,

Have you seen any travel-sized resophonics by Fine Resophonics? They didn't have any on their site (i.e., under the custom instruments section). I assume they would make them, though, judging by the creative nature of their other instruments. If you have seen them, do you know the approximate price (Francs are fine)?

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Redlands Bill
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Can someone explain how "scale length" is determined for these travel guitars?

I've been considering buying either an Applause-AA12 or an Applause-AA10. I can't seem to find the actual lengths for these guitars. Any comments or length information about these guitars would be appreciated.

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Mojo
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posted 12-19-2000 22:27     Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bill,

Scale length is distance from nut to bridge. Or twice the distance from nut to fret XII, same thing. Say +/- 25" for most full size and OO guitars. Maybe thirty some inches for a bass.

The short scale mini guitars end up having tuning and intonation problems in standard tuning, and various schemes are used to try and remedy that. With limited success, at least in my humble opinion. Others may have some different input.

I would prefer a full scale length travel guitar, to be as interchangeable as possible with a full size instrument. If you're ok with the little one being its own thing, you have more to choose from.

For the Applause or any guitar you are interested, the scale length, nut width, radius, size of fretwire should be available specs. Ultimately sound and feel rule, right?. I sure wouldn't buy an instrument without playing it and feeling good about it first.

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Dennis Roger Reed
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posted 12-20-2000 01:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis Roger Reed   Click Here to Email Dennis Roger Reed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've owned a Pignose travel guitar for a couple of years. It's great. I don't think they're making them anymore, but probably can be tracked down used.

It's small enough to carry on (mine is in a Martin backpacker gig bag) and they have the amp built right in the body. And they are really really loud and have a great wicked distortion when you turn them up.

You can plug headphones in and play just to yourself, but half the fun is annoying the poor sucker in the next hotel room with "Spoonful" at high volume.

And they're great for electric slide guitar. You can get an almost David Lindley tone, especially at high volume.

Plugged into an amp, they're a good little electric guitar, too. And they're so tiny, they make my already huge body look like King Kong.

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Cham Rand
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posted 12-20-2000 12:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Cham Rand   Click Here to Email Cham Rand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Traveler guitar that I've used for a year now and I haven't found anything that matches it. I tried some of the others mentioned and really did not like the way they played.

The Traveler is designed by an airline pilot who plays, I believe, and has been privately manufactured by Fender. I've played it on planes without disturbing anyone and used it sucessfully at open mic situations while on the road for business. It has also traveled well to Europe and South America with others as carry on baggage.

My requirements were the same as yours I think. This guitar has a full scale strat neck and is very small and light (3.5lb and 28" long). It uses a cleverly designed acoustic sound chamber for unplugged playing. Looks a bit like a Steinberger and that's what makes it so small. It plays well and sounds good unplugged (although not much projection) as well as plugged in (has a single coil pickup) playing fingerstyle, flatpick, or slide. Packaged for travel and comes with a handy canvas carrying case that has an outside pocket for strings, capos, cigarette amp, ect. About $200 as I recall.

Check it out at www.travelerguitar.com. I've seen them at 48th Street Guitar in NYC.

[This message has been edited by Cham Rand (edited 12-20-2000).]

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Redlands Bill
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posted 12-20-2000 18:23           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found a site that listed and reviewed many of the travel type guitars. Others may find it uselful: http://www.guitarnotes.com/links/guitars/travel_guitars1.shtml

I liked the Traveler Guitar that Cham talked about, however the price is $499.00. What do you use for an amplifier when you're on the road?

Another guitar that I'm going to try out is made in San Diego. It's called a "go guitar".
It has great reviews and is only $200. You can find it at www.go-guitars.com.

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posted 12-21-2000 12:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Guillaume     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey John,

Sorry for not responding sooner about Fine Resophonics. The following link will take you to their 1/2 size single-cone custom model, which lists for FF18,000, or about $2,500: http://www.chez.com/resophonic/custom3m.htm

I'm sure they can do anything, though; like a travel-size tricone, 12-string, etc...

Take care.

G.

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Mojo
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posted 12-21-2000 14:08     Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guillame,

Thanks for the link to that 1/2 size reso. A beauty, looks kinda 'National'. Wonder how it plays, anyone had their hands on one?

Bill, Cham Rand, Dennis, thanks for the good leads.

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Cham Rand
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posted 12-21-2000 21:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Cham Rand   Click Here to Email Cham Rand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I stand corrected on the cost of the Traveler. I went back and checked my invoice. I did pay $340 for it at 48th Street. Sorry about that. I think $499 is full list?

I keep one of those Smokey Amplifiers in the pocket of the guitar's canvas travel case, along with a cable, the stethoscope earpiece (for acoustic listening, see website), a thin tuner, an extra set of strings, a slide, and some picks. The amp is about the size of a pack of cigarettes and some of them are actually decorated up to look like a pack of cigarettes. It's great to be able to carry all my guitar stuff in the guitar's case, always ready to go.

The amp has a very nice, analog sounding overdriven tone. I ran through it into a PA at an open mic in CA last Spring while playing some slide a la Chris Whitley. A lot of people came up to me afterward asking how I got the sound. It was about $18 at 48th Street.

I have also used one of those mini Marshall stacks for clean playing. However, it doesn't fit into the carrying case. Sounds pretty good to me for $25.

Bill, thanks for the link to guitarnotes.com. Great resource of guitar gear website links! Smokey Amplifiers is linked there but there seemed to be a problem with their site when I checked it out.

[This message has been edited by Cham Rand (edited 12-23-2000).]

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posted 12-22-2000 13:16     Click Here to See the Profile for Guillaume     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding Fine Resophonic's 1/2 size single-reso custom model: unfortunately, I don't own one... However, I hear Bob Brozman has one... Bob? Can you enlighten us?
Fine Resophonic spin their own cones and I hear they do a tremendous job. Some folks have said they sound better than Nationals...
They also pioneered the wood-body tricone, which you can see on their website. Judging from some of their models, they're definitely displaying a lot of creativity around the resonator guitar theme!!!

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Mojo
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posted 12-22-2000 15:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That travelerguitar thing looks pretty interesting. Has a strat pickup and a peizo. Wonder what kind of sounds you can get from it. Soloette makes something similar, just a neck with a take apart wire frame for the body.

Fernandez also makes something like the Pignose, with built in amp and speaker. It feels pretty good, but the sound is not impressive. Sales guy claims it sounds great plugged in. May be worth a try.

If you're going electric, you got to haul an amp. Can't imagine some tiny box will do the job, anything less than an 8" speaker seems inadequate. There's the good ol' Pignose portable. And Crate (Taxi?) makes a battery powered unit too. Anyone played with that?

For light travel reasons, I might rather stay unplugged.

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Dennis Roger Reed
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posted 12-23-2000 14:33     Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis Roger Reed   Click Here to Email Dennis Roger Reed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check this out: an inflatable acousic electric travel guitar. http://www.chrysalisguitars.com

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Cham Rand
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posted 12-23-2000 14:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Cham Rand   Click Here to Email Cham Rand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yikes!!!!! Very interesting looking and wild engineering concepts they've patented. And very expensive at the moment at $2,400 for just the guitar. Could be a collector's item if they don't stay in business?

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Noticed that some of you are interested in travel guitars and amps. We have a Pignose Travel guitar, Sunburst, and Pignose amp as well..priced very reasonable, collector selling please email: rocknragz@butter.toast.net

all excellent condition!

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Rory
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Hi-
I have been building custom backpacker guitars & all other types of backpacker instruments since 1996. I go for the biggest tone from the smallest size instrument. I build them full scale for regular gauge strings, not short scale 'extra light strings only' as Martin does. Quality solid tonewoods. Inexpensive customization options. Contact me through www.travelinstruments.com for more info.
Rory Dafoe

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Keith Murray
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Hi,
I have one of the Go Bro Resos made in San Diego. Its not a bad little guitar with a small cone and quite a realistic reso tone for a small guitar also pretty loud. The makers will basically do anything you want within reason,very helpful guys. Worth a try!!
Keith.

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Rory
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Hi,
Just updating my website address on this thread for anyone interested in travel guitars and all manner of travel instruments for that matter. All hand built using quality tonewoods and construction.

seatoskyinstruments.com

I'm offering 10% off all purchases and orders made through feb. 14/08.

Cheers,
Rory

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posted 11-27-2007 18:12     Click Here to See the Profile for Ebner101     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Johnson Trailblazer is a travel size Full Scale Length guitar. http://www.greatmusicproductsonline.com/proddetail.asp?prod=JGTR1
I played one at South Austin Music a while back. For the money ($100) it was just fine.

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I used to play a Tacoma Papoose quite a bit. It's a short-scale guitar with a fantastic, unique tone. Really worth looking into for a travel guitar. Unfortunately, my local shop managed to strip the truss rod by using a traditional truss wrench for an adjustment and the neck is a mess now. Boo.

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I have an all carbon fiber travel guitar made by Emerald Guitars in Ireland. About $500, absolutely indestructible, and sounds amazingly good for what it is. Also, they're 25 inch scale due to some very crafty design features, and yet fits easily into the overhead bin.

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