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Cham Rand
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posted 04-30-2001 00:44     Click Here to See the Profile for Cham Rand   Click Here to Email Cham Rand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard Woody play this tune again yesterday at the Mix-o-lydian studios and posted a follow-up on his forum about the tune. He said he thought that there was a Davis cover available but he wasn't sure where. He suggested I poll the experts here.

I searched the forums here and found an earlier thread that mentioned Martin Simpson's "Cool & Unusual" but I don't see the tune listed on it (maybe under another name?). A quick search of CDNow only turned up a cover by Roy Bookbinder on his "Travelin' Man" album (which sounded pretty good). Any other covers around of the tune? Tab? Any clues would be helpful.

Thanks!

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Stu Alt
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"Smoke & Mirrors" is the Martin Simpson disc with Delia on it.

Johnny Cash covered it, too.

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Cham Rand,

This is a great tune. I learned it a few months ago from a tab from one of Martins classes at IGS. Martins arrangement is excellent but almost impossible to sing and play. I would be interested in hearing a few other versions to understand where Martin was coming from. If anybody else out there knows this tune I would like to discuss some fingering and picking techniques.

Jim

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My favorite rendition of Delia is on an old David Bromberg album. It's one of the first songs I ever learned straight from a recording. Near the end of the song, Bromberg talks about a Blind Willie McTell version, which I've never heard.

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posted 04-30-2001 14:03     Click Here to See the Profile for drDAve   Click Here to Email drDAve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cham Rand
Woody played that version of Delia last year at the teacher concert at IGS and it was one of the best things I heard that week. I would love to learn his version but don't have it recorded. Martin's version is quite different but also great-it appears on smoke and mirrors and his Bootleg USA album. I have the tab from Martin for it-not really very difficult to play once you figure out the fingering. Singing along is, as someone mentioned, quite another matter. Martin has an amazing ability to seperate his vocals from his guitar with regard to time and phrasing so as to come up with two seperate lines that fit perfectly (take a listen to how he pulls time around on Boots of Spanish Leather)-no doubt it's only a matter of ten or fifteen years of dilligent practice! Bromberg has a straightforward version on his greatest hits album. I've never heard Gary Davis do Delia, but I do have a Willie McTell recording-his version is incredibly harsh-it's told more from the point of view of the killer, and not poor Delia, and the killer isn't too sorry about what he did. Cool how a song can evolve and take on so many personas.

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Cham Rand
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posted 05-08-2001 21:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Cham Rand   Click Here to Email Cham Rand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all of the great information about the tune! What a wonderful resource this is.

Cheers!

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Bob Dylan does a great version of the Blind Willie variation on "World Gone Wrong." The Cash song sounds more like "Ella Speed" by Mance Lipscomb...

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posted 08-01-2003 12:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Delia - Davis, Gary (Rev.)

Rt - Delia's Gone/Delia

1. Bookbinder, Roy. Travelin' Man, Adelphi AD 1017, LP (1972), cut#A.02
2. Gritzbach, George. Sweeper, Kicking Mule SNKF 157, LP (1978), cut#B.03

Delia (Holmes) [Laws I 4]

Rt - Delia's Gone/Delia

1. Native American Balladry, Amer. Folklore Society, Bk (1964/1950), p248

Delia's Fling - Russo, Mike

1. Russo, Mike. Mike Russo, Arhoolie 4003, LP (197?), cut#A.05

Delia's Gone/Delia [Laws I 4]

Rt - Delia ; Delia (Holmes)

Uf - In The Pines

1. Songs for Pickin' and Singin', Gold Medal Books, sof (1962), p 19
2. Folksingers Guitar Guide, Oak, Sof (1961), p63
3. Sing Out! Reprints, Sing Out, Sof (196?), 2, p29
4. Abe and Malka. 100 Guitar Accompanyment Patterns, Amsco, Sof (1974), p177
5. Anderson, Casey. Casey Anderson "Live" at the Ice, Atco 33-172, LP (1963), cut#B.02
6. Blarney Folk. Let Those Irish Brown Eyes Smile at Me, Babe, London International SW 99512, LP (1969), cut#B.03
7. Bud & Travis. Bud & Travis in Concert, Liberty LDS 12001, LP (196?), cut#1.03
8. Bud & Travis. Bud and Travis, Liberty LRP 3125, LP (1960), cut#B.01
9. Clayton, Paul. Bloody Ballads, Riverside RLP 12-615, LP (1956), cut#B.03
10. Gibson, Bob. Offbeat Folksongs, Riverside RLP 12-802, LP (1956), cut#A.05
11. Holt, Will. Will Holt Concert, Stinson SLP 64, LP (1963), cut#B.06 (Black Girl)
12. Morse, Peter. Goin' Down to Town, Philips PHM 200-059, LP (196?), cut#B.01
13. Okun, Milt. Folk Music Scene, M. Witmark, Sof (1967), p 92
14. Stanley, Peter. At the Sidekick, Talkeetna 25003, CD (1999), cut# 7
15. Traum, Happy. American Stranger, Kicking Mule KM 301, LP (1977), cut#B.04
16. Travellers. Journey with the Travellers, Kapp KL 1167, LP (196?), cut#B.03

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posted 08-01-2003 12:26     Click Here to See the Profile for outfidel   Click Here to Email outfidel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Over on the Mudcat Cafe, they say that Blind Willie McTell and Blind Blake also recorded Delia.

Also, here's the story behind the song, as posted by John Garst on the Mudcat:

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"Delia" gained national prominence as "Delia's Gone" after the Bahaman Blind Blake (Blake Alphonso Higgs) recorded it in the 1950s. Almost every pop group of the "great folk scare" recorded it. Further, it crossed over into country and rock. Johnny Cash recorded it twice, once in about 1960 and once in 1993. Bob Dylan recorded it in 1992. In field recordings, it goes well back into the '20s and '30s, and it was recorded by jazz band leader Jimmy Gordon at that time. In published collections, you find versions in the collections of Odum and Johnson (1925 and earlier) and White (1928). It is no doubt older, dating to about 1900. White's informant said he learned it between 1900 and 1904.
As far as I know right now, the tag "Delia's" (or "Delia") "gone, one more round, Delia's gone" was strictly Caribbean before its introduction to the U.S. in the 1950s. Earlier in the U.S., the tag lines were "One more rounder gone," "All I done had done gone," "Poor gal, she gone," "She's dead, she's dead and gone," "All the friends I ever had are gone," etc.

John Cowley pointed out to me that Robert Winslow Gordon had reported to the Library of Congress in 1928 that he had tracked the "Cooney Killed Delia" song to its source in Yamacraw, a black neighborhood of Savannah, GA (see Good Friends and Bad Enemies, by Debora Kodish). Gordon never published anything on this, and I have no idea where his papers on this subject might be. It appears that the Library of Congress doesn't have them (from what they tell me), but I haven't yet been there or to the University of Oregon, where there are more Gordon papers, to check things out personally. Gordon said that he had interviewed and photographed Delia's mother and the detective that had investigated the case and that he had collected 28 different versions of the song and copied 50 pages of court records. I've not seen any of this, unless some of the court records I've found (fewer pages) overlap with Gordon's.

John Cowley suggested that, living in Georgia, I might be in a position to track Delia down again, so I started casually looking at versions in accessible sources. When I found the lines, "Nineteen hundred, Nineteen hundred and one, Death of po' Delia, Has jes' now begun," I went immediately to the library to scan the year 1901 in Savannah newspapers on microfilm. Two hours later, in mid-March, 1901, I was looking at an article stating that Moses Houston would go on trial tomorrow for the murder of Delia Green last Christmas Eve. I found other articles, one of them calling Moses "'Coony' Houston," and later the clemency file of Moses Houston in the Georgia State Archives. That file contains a summary, nearly a verbatim transcript, of testimony at Moses' trail. By the way, "Houston" is pronounced "howss'tun" in south Georgia, not "hews'tun."

Delia, age 14, was working as a scrub girl in the home of Willie West, on Harrison Street, across the street from Delia's home with her mother at 113 Ann Street. About four months earlier, Delia and Moses, also 14 but nearly 15, had started seeing one another. At the party late Christmas Eve night, around 10:30-11:00 or so, they were quarreling. Cooney appears to have been teasing Delia, claiming that she was his "wife," and talking about their sexual relationship. Delia replied that he was a lying son-of-a-bitch and that she was a lady. Willie West threatened to kick Cooney out of the house if he didn't behave. After that, there was no more fussing, but as the party was breaking up, and as Cooney was leaving, he took a 0.39-cal pistol and shot Delia in the left groin area. Willie West chased him out into the street and held him while police were called. Cooney said that he shot Delia because she called him a son of a bitch, and that he would do it again under the same conditions, but he offered to pay for Delia's doctor. Delia was taken across the street to her mother's house, where she was attended by a doctor, perhaps the same one that signed her death certificate, J. W. Ward. The doctor told newspaper reporters that she would not live, and at around 3 a.m. Christmas morning, 1900, Delia died. According to her death certificate, she was buring in Laurel Grove Cemetery, Savannah, but a recent inventory of tombstones in that cemetery does not contain a record of a marker for Delia Green.

Mose, as he came to be called in later life, was convicted of murder with a recommendation for mercy, due to his youth. He was sentenced to life at hard labor in the state penitentiary. He was probably eligible for parole after 7 years, but he served 13. He was paroled in 1913 by Governor John Marshall Slaton, the same governor whose commutation of Leo Frank's death sentence in the Mary Phagan case was followed by Frank's lynching by a mob and an end to Slaton's political career.

I know nothing of Mose's later life. I would like to find living relatives of Mose Houston and Delia Green, but so far I have not tracked any down.


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Jeffrey Sipress
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posted 08-01-2003 12:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeffrey Sipress   Click Here to Email Jeffrey Sipress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Where's CornDog when you need him?!?

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Cham Rand
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posted 08-01-2003 14:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Cham Rand   Click Here to Email Cham Rand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outfidel, what a great find! I'd forgotten about this post. That the beauty of this Forum.

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posted 08-01-2003 16:41     Click Here to See the Profile for SHG   Click Here to Email SHG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ernie Hawkins covers Delia on his most recent CD (he spells it DEHLIA - and attributes it to Blind Willie McTell as well as RGD)

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i believe sparky rucker does a nice version of delia.

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MikeT
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posted 08-01-2003 20:51     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my foggy memory, Didn't Grossman do a version of this in one of his albums, or one of his "training" tapes/CD's/Books? That's the one I remember.

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All The Friends I Ever Had Are Gone by RGD and BWMcT use most of the same lyrics. This is Bromberg's and Grossman's version and Roy Bookbinder too (on his first album Travelling Man) often just called Delia.

Delis's Gone is a different song as performed by Pete Seeger circa 1947 (tho' I haven't heard it), told to me and covered by Happy Traum in the 70s on American Stranger. He taught it to me in dropped 'D' tuning. Kind of more Joseph Spence than anything. Certainly not RGDs Piedmont style played in 'C'that was a totally different tune.

Then I met a woman whose family had lived and worked in the West Indies for the British Foreign Office and she had a 78rpm record of Delia's Gone picked up there, Jamaica I think. It worked more off a calypso beat, up tempo more verses, and had tongue in cheek lyrics something like....the judge he says I'm gonna give you 99....so what... I gotta brother down in New Orleans doing 9 hundred and 99...ho ho ho! And these ironic verses had been dropped by Happy to leave the poignent ones and a much better song.

The Cash version in my humble opinion is dreadful like most everything else he did. And typically he keeps the worst of the lyrics and thinks that's ok cos I'm me! Bad judgement mate!

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For what it's worth there is a nice version of this song on the album, "Nod to Bob" (a tribute album to Dylan) done by Spider John Koerner and David Ray. In fact the whole CD is pretty good with a killer "I Want You" by Cliff Eberhardt, whom I had never heard of before. Also the aforementioned "Boots of Spanish Leather" by Martin Simpson and "Girl from the North Country" by John Gorka are included and are jewels.

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McTell's version of Delia is on Disc 4 of the JSP box set Blind Willie McTell "The Classic Years 1927-1940"

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quote:
Originally posted by MikeT:
In my foggy memory, Didn't Grossman do a version of this in one of his albums, or one of his "training" tapes/CD's/Books? That's the one I remember.


It's in his Ragtime Blues Guitarists book which I purchased around 1976 an stiill have (it's looking a little bit ragtimed itself after so long). Grossman gives joint copyright to the tablature to Rev Gary Davis and himself but provides two sets of lyrics; the first by Davis and the second by Blind Willie McTell.

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Eric Taylor does a fine version/medley (11:37 !) called "Delia/Bad News" on his Scuffletown cd. Superb sogwriting & singing. Check him out.

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On the "Live at the Fur Peace Ranch" album, Roy Bookbinder says that he learned the song from RGD, who claims Delia was from Georgia and that he knew her. How much of that was RGD exagerating or Roy exagerating is out of my jurisdiction, but as I recall, Roy said that RGD claimed she was a Georgia girl, who was killed in 1910.

Interesting how these things get their own lives. If that newspaper article is true, then much of the song is wrong. Delia wasn't a gambler, she wasn't killed by a .44, and she wasn't killed by "Cutty".

FWIW, I've always thought the Cash version was sort've weak, and I like a lot of JC's music and just about everything else on that album.

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For a detail discussion of the song "Delia's Gone" - and also "Stagger Lee" and "Frankie and Albert" - check out "The Rose & the Briar: Death, Love and Liberty in the American Ballad" (eds. Sean Wilent and Greil Marcus).
DB

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Roy spent a lot of time with RGD in the late 60s and Woody Mann too, yeah. Over here in Britain Derek Brimstone drove Gary around on tour in the mid 60s and Derek had Delia/All The Friends I Had Are Gone in his repertoire before Grossman's Oak/Music Sales tab books were available (printed first in 1970). I dug out my copy to read what Stefan had put down there (always interesting stuff) and he talks of BWMcTs version called Delia or the short version that is All My Friends Are Gone and as has just been posted by ringfinger gives two different verse sets, tho' its basically the same song when Delias Gone surely isn't.

But then I get my gatefold Atlanta Twelve String album out, Blues Originals Vol. 1 on Atlantic SD 7224, the originals produed in '49 by Ahmet Ertegun (read about how he found Willie on the street in Atlanta and took him to a recording studio straight off, in Michael Gray's recent biography of BWMcT, Hand Me My Travellin Shoes, it's a fantastic read if you have an interest in the history of a truly great original guitar hero) and the album has the song listed as Little Delia, that hasn't been yet mentioned.

Now we know Willie stole stuff for himself. (King Edward's Blues is a pop song of its day, Baby It Must Be Love, that must have been written after late '36 of course, but Willie changed the title and claimed authorship). But how did Willie McTell get RGDs version of what he called Little Delia if that was the way round it passed? We know it isn't the same song, same guitar styling as Delia's Gone but Willies and Garys are close in their guitar styling. I'm still fascinated how such a difinitive piece of music was passed around then. Any thoughts anyone?

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