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jcsehak
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posted 07-18-2001 17:12     Click Here to See the Profile for jcsehak   Click Here to Email jcsehak     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, anybody know the tuning (or better yet, have a transcription) of Geechie Wiley's "Last Kind Word Blues?" I fell in love with it the first time I heard it (in the movie "Crumb") but have had a little trouble trying to figure it out.

thanks,
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Mr. Natural
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posted 07-18-2001 18:23           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regular tuning. Em-Am-B7.
repeated licks are slides on lower string against open string, if I remember correctly:
2str fr4 - 1str fr0 and
3str fr3 - 2str fr0.

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posted 07-20-2001 20:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Hambone   Click Here to Email Hambone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that the V chord is played with the 4th string open, making it a Bm7. I also HAMMER this chord ON EACH BEAT while simultaneously striking the strings with your picking hand.(The chord is fingered with 2 fingers: ring finger on 3rd string, 2nd fret; middle finger on 5th string, 2nd fret). Also, please post the lyrics if you got 'em.

[This message has been edited by Hambone (edited 07-20-2001).]

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jcsehak
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posted 07-24-2001 19:24     Click Here to See the Profile for jcsehak   Click Here to Email jcsehak     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it can be in standard tuning, unless it's standard tuned down a step, since the lowest note is a D. At least, judging from a tape of the movie. I just got a CD with the tune on it that I haven't played along with yet, but I could be wrong. I had the most luck with Dm tuning though. I'll post the tab of what I got so far as soon as I get a chance. Definitely post the lyrics if you have them!

Josh

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Adrian Freed
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posted 01-22-2004 16:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I grabbed this off ari eislinger's forum:

Last Kind Words Blues
by Geechie Wiley

(Guitar Intro)

The last kind word I heard my daddy say
Lord the last kind word I heard my daddy say

If I die, if I die in the German War
I want you to send my body, send it to my mother-in-law

If I get killed, if I get killed, please don’t bury my (soul) (sword)
I (p’fer) just leave me out, let the buzzards eat me whole

When you see me comin’, look ‘cross the (rich man’s) (Richland) field
If I don’t bring you flour, I’ll bring you (?)

(Guitar Solo)

I went to the depot, I looked up at the sign
Cry some train don’t come, there’ll be some walkin’ done

My momma told me, just before she died
Lord, (since the dawn, I thought you’d be so wise) (I brought you a piece of ?)

The Mississippi River, you know it’s deep and wide
I can stand right here, see my (babe) (face) from the other side

What you do to me baby, it never gets out of me
I mean I’ll see you, after I cross the deep blue sea

Obviously, this song is about a guy that went off to war in WWI. It's interesting that he'd want his body sent to his mother-in-law and eaten by buzzards. If anybody knows more than I do about WWI, maybe you could help fill in the blanks, or give corrections?

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TC
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I have always assumed that the question mark at the end of the fourth verse was Beaujolais, with the assumption that the soldier had just returned from France and was bringing a souvenir for his sweetheart. I could be wrong though.

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Lcwx2
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posted 01-26-2004 12:41     Click Here to See the Profile for Lcwx2   Click Here to Email Lcwx2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The full content of my post is actually here too:
http://www.guitarseminars.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001898.html

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Niall OReilly
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posted 07-26-2004 13:29     Click Here to See the Profile for Niall OReilly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
re: Lyrics to "Last Kind Word Blues" by Geechie Wiley

For what it's worth, I tried to refine the lyrics posted there. I think she
flubs the lyrics at some points [mean, blind], and/or misheard the song from
her original source [soul/hole]. Otherwise, the lyrics seem to have a surreal
logic to them. Her use of rhymed couplets helps in selecting from
alternatives.

[pre]
The last kind word I heard my daddy say
Lord, the last kind word I heard my daddy say
If I die, if I die in the German War
I want you to send my body, send it to my mother, Lord
If I get killed, if I get killed, please don't bury my soul [me in a hole]
I p'fer just leave me out, let the buzzards eat me whole
When you see me comin', look 'cross the rich man's field
If I don't bring you flowers, I'll bring you buzzard meat
(Guitar Solo)
I went to the depot, I looked up at the sign
Cry some train don't come, there'll be some walkin' done
My momma told me, just before she died
Lord, listen daughter, don't you be so [blind]
The Mississippi River, you know it's deep and wide
I can stand right here, see my place from the other side
What you do to me baby, it never gets out of me
I [mean?] I'll see you, if I have t’ cross the deep blue sea
[\pre]

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cleft
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posted 07-27-2004 09:56     Click Here to See the Profile for cleft   Click Here to Email cleft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the line is
Lord, precious daughter, don't you be so wild

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Adrian Freed
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posted 07-27-2004 10:50     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would suggest the following for the last line:

I mean to see you, if I have t’ cross the deep blue sea

also I am fairly confident that this is what is sung:

I can stand right here, see my babe from the other side

[This message has been edited by Adrian Freed (edited July 27, 2004).]

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mr mando
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posted 07-27-2004 23:40     Click Here to See the Profile for mr mando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not buzzard meat, it's beaujolais. You don't want to intoxicate your loved one with buzzard meat. That's no alternative to flowers!

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waxwing
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posted 07-28-2004 02:05     Click Here to See the Profile for waxwing   Click Here to Email waxwing     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, most hear it as "bolted meal" a slightly refined or sifted grain (like grits). But, Mr M, you were aware of that discussion at WCB, eh? It was revived yesterday over there, as well.
All for now.
John C.

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Adrian Freed
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posted 07-28-2004 11:09     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be good to assemble all these possibilities and have the prewar blues list take a crack at it or have they already done that?

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mydoghasfleas
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posted 05-22-2006 10:17     Click Here to See the Profile for mydoghasfleas     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the lyrics to this line should be, "I went to the depot, I looked up at the sun"

As for the tuning, its definitely open tuning, open D or Dm? I can't figure out exactly what she's doing though... anyone think they got it?

Incredible song.

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mr mando
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posted 05-22-2006 10:54     Click Here to See the Profile for mr mando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mydoghasfleas:
IAs for the tuning, its definitely open tuning, open D or Dm? I can't figure out exactly what she's doing though... anyone think they got it?

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Natural:
Regular tuning. Em-Am-B7.
repeated licks are slides on lower string against open string, if I remember correctly:
2str fr4 - 1str fr0 and
3str fr3 - 2str fr0.

What Mr. Natural said. The guitar is tuned down about a half step.
Here's a rough tab that I made when I was young enough to do such things:


Last Kind Words
Geechie Wiley
Transcribed by mr mando

| | | | | | | |
|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|
|------------------------0-------|--------0---------------0-------|
|------------------------0-------|--------0---------------0-------|
|------------------------2-------|--------2---------------2-------|
|--------------------------------|2---------------2---------------|
|--------------------------------|0---------------0---------------|

| | | | | |
|--------------------------------|----------------|
|----0-------0-------0-------0---|--------0-------|
|2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---|--------0-------|
|0-------0-------0-------0-------|--------2-------|
|2-------2-------2-------2-------|2---------------|
|--------------------------------|0---------------|

| | | | | | | |
|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|
|----0-------0-------0-------0---|--------0---0-----------0---1---|
|2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---|--------0---0-------2-----------|
|0-------0-------0-------0-------|--------2-----------------------|
|2-------2-------2-------2-------|2---------------2---------------|
|--------------------------------|0---------------0---------------|

| | | | | | | |
|--------------------------------|------------------------0-------|
|--------1---------------0---1---|--------1-----------4/5-----4/5-|
|--------2-----------2-----------|--------2-----------------------|
|--------2-----------------------|--------2-----------------------|
|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|
|0---------------0---------------|0---------------0-------0-------|

| | | | | | | | | |
|0-------0-------0---------------|----------------------------------------0-------|
|----4/5-----4/5---------0-------|0-------0---0-----------0---0-------4/5-----4/5-|
|--------------------3/4-----3/4-|--------0---0-----------0---0-------------------|
|--------------------------------|--------2---------------2-----------------------|
|--------------------------------|----------------2---------------2---------------|
|0---------------0-------0-------|0---------------0---------------0-------0-------|

| | | | | | | |
|0-------0-------0---------------|--------------------------------|
|----4/5-----4/5---------0-------|0-----------------------0-------|
|--------------------3/4-----3/4-|----2---0---------------0-------|
|--------------------------------|------------2-----------2-------|
|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|
|0---------------0-------0-------|0---------------0---------------|

| | | | | |
|--------------------------------|----------------|
|----0-------0-------0-------0---|--------0-------|
|2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---|--------0-------|
|0-------0-------0-------0-------|--------2-------|
|2-------2-------2-------2-------|2---------------|
|--------------------------------|0---------------|

| | | | | | | |
|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|
|----0-------0-------0-------0---|--------0---0-----------0---1---|
|2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---|--------0---0-------2-----------|
|0-------0-------0-------0-------|--------2-----------------------|
|2-------2-------2-------2-------|2---------------2---------------|
|--------------------------------|0---------------0---------------|

| | | |
|0---0-------0-------------------|
|0---0---2---0-------------------|
|1-------1-----------------------|
|--------2-----------------------|
|--------------------------------|
|0-----------0-------------------|

And keep Hambone's advice in mind:

quote:
Originally posted by Hambone:
I believe that the V chord is played with the 4th string open, making it a Bm7. I also HAMMER this chord ON EACH BEAT while simultaneously striking the strings with your picking hand.(The chord is fingered with 2 fingers: ring finger on 3rd string, 2nd fret; middle finger on 5th string, 2nd fret).

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ramblin
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posted 05-22-2006 17:07     Click Here to See the Profile for ramblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The I in this tune is major (E major, relative to the tuning) - Geechie hammers the 1st fret, third string repeatedly in the lick over the E chord. The IV is clearly minor as well as the V chord, although the voicing's pretty low and doesn't quite color the song in quite the same way the minor IV does. That Bm7 is a truly excellent chord, though. Yum.

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brianf
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It's a major/minor thing - modal, really, with a gapped scale. So, yes, the I chord is major, the IV chord minor. Blind Boy Fuller does a similar thing - is it "Weeping Willow Blues", I'm not sure offhand. And Santo & Johnny's "Sleepwalk" also uses the minor IV chord, but in a "rock'n'roll ballad" format. The guitar is in standard tuning, but down more than a semitone. Duane Eddy, Jerry Reed and Hank Snow have all used this trick, giving the guitar a rich sonority while keeping it utterly familiar. Check out Reggie Young's early work with the Bill Black Combo, where he tunes down two tones and plays in C out of E shapes.

I like playing "Last Kind Word" kinda Chet style, with damped basses and a heavy tremelo (vibrato) going on the amp. But I use a regular B7 chord for that, because the "Mississippi B7" doesn't sound right in that context. That "Mississippi B7" is a beautiful thing, because it's not really a dominant 7th, it's kind of a I7 and a sus4 as well. So it harmonizes blues lines really well.

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posted 07-11-2006 01:59     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonesome Sheik   Click Here to Email Lonesome Sheik     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good God , a new chord !! what is that Mississippi B7 ?is it Bo Weavil 7th???

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If you play a garden variety B7 chord in 1st position but don't fret the D string, leaving it open, you get what the "Mississippi B7". I call it that because it's used in a lot of Delta blues in E. If you listen closely to a Charlie Patton blues in E, you may well hear it.

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Lonesome Sheik
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posted 07-11-2006 05:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonesome Sheik   Click Here to Email Lonesome Sheik     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You gotta be kidding ,I've been a gardener for25 years (tryin' to get that MississippiDelta share cropper kind of feling!!!)nener heard of a GARDEN B7 , let me hear about that !!!!

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