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pcb
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From: Portland, OR USA
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posted 08-07-2001 01:22     Click Here to See the Profile for pcb   Click Here to Email pcb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the looks of this forum, it looks like everyone had a wonderful time. I'm salivating as Vancouver approaches, and want to make it count, so...

For those of you who just attended your first IGS, I'd be obliged if y'all could complete the following:

1. If I had it to do all over again, I'd have...


Brought something (second guitar? extra mini-disks? batteries? toothpaste?)

Stayed up later? Went to bed earlier? Signed up for a bunch of different instructors? Stuck with the same teacher the whole week?

What advice would you offer? I'm all ears... and fingers.

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brewbird
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From: San Jose, CA USA
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posted 08-07-2001 13:55     Click Here to See the Profile for brewbird   Click Here to Email brewbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ear plugs for when you really need your sleep and a mini disk recorder rather than tape.

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Richard Chizek
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posted 08-07-2001 14:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Chizek   Click Here to Email Richard Chizek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pcb - Go to the orientation, listen to the course descriptions, and choose what appeals to you. The classes are linear, so you definitely want to stick with an instructor/class rather than 'sample' classes. If you find a class is not right for you, talk to your teacher. If you must switch, do it early. Get your variety in the afternoon workshops.

Bring plenty of mini-disks, tapes, and batteries. Charge up every night. Earplugs are recommended. You never know when you might want to catch 40 winks, and jams can happen anywhere. (Snoring too!)

I limited myself to 3 guitars, which was about right. 1 dreadnought - 1 reso - 1 parlor. (The parlor was great when I didn't want to lug the heavy lumber.) Pack plenty of strings.

Best advice - just be there. Spread out. Soak up everything you can. Keep an ear and ear open for 'magic moments.' Challenge yourself. Turn off any 'self-conciousness,' or as Bob calls it, your 'give a shitter.' Don't be shy or afraid to make mistakes. Everyone at IGS is with you. You're in for a real experience. Enjoy yourself!

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Adrian Freed
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posted 08-07-2001 18:47     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is lots to learn from any of the teachers so remember to take into account your personal chemistry with the teachers as well as your interests in terms of repertoire, genres, techniques etc.

Also, there are so many great answers to so many different kinds of questions available I have taken to noting down my questions and confusions as I go along during the year: including guitar choices, string choices and guages, compositional ideas, PA systems, pickups, artists styles, particular songs, tunings, etc. etc. A lot of these are answered on the forum, but many need a direct demonstration - I particularly remember Martin Simpson showing me some of the secrets of Blind Willie Johnson's playing. This year I decided to learn some Barbecue Bob tunes and Woody Mann directed me to Kyle to teach me Yo-Yo blues directly.

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Bobbie Raymond
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From: San Francisco, CA, USA
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posted 08-08-2001 02:04     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobbie Raymond   Click Here to Email Bobbie Raymond     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been to IGS three times. These are, without a doubt, some of the best players and teachers of this music--you can't waste time or go wrong, and you'll learn, learn, and learn some more.
Everytime someone asks what to do to prepare, I think of this practical advice that I always manage to disregard: I should plan and practice what I'm going to play at the concert before I arrive. Instead of practicing when I got there, I could have used the time to practice lesson material, jam more, or, gulp, taker another workshop.
But, in the long run, the concert meant the most to me, and I've got plenty of mini-discs. But, next year....

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David Siegler
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From: Mill Valley, CA USA
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posted 08-08-2001 20:14     Click Here to See the Profile for David Siegler   Click Here to Email David Siegler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To add to what Bobbie wrote...

Assume that you will play in the student concert regardless of skill level. No one will force you but it's one of the great experiences you can have there. Really try to decide what you will do and if you want to play with other students or teachers.

It tends to be high anxiety yet fun distraction/attraction for me and knowing what you want to do ahead of time is a big help. Why? Becuase you will get tired from a tremendous amount of input even if you get enough sleep (you won't) and being tired/exhausted makes it much harder to make decisions. What do I want to play? With who? Should I practice for it now or go to this other class or jam or sleep or etc..

Like Bobbie I promise myself that next year I will arrive preprared! So far I'm 0 for 2.

David

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David Siegler
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posted 08-08-2001 20:22     Click Here to See the Profile for David Siegler   Click Here to Email David Siegler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another thing that I bring is a high quality pillow to sit on during classes and concerts. Most of each day in San Rafael we were sitting on cheap crappy plastic folding chairs. I find I can sit a lot longer with a good cushion. On the other hand if you have enough built-in to your butt then you might not care. I use one of those swedish foam things that I bought from Brookstone.

Another item I was very happy with is the gig bag (soft shell case) I bought for my guitars. I have high quality hard shell cases but for the travel between your bedroom and classes, etc. It's nice to not lug the extra weight of the case while still keeping your guitar protected.

David

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po' boy
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posted 08-09-2001 12:56     Click Here to See the Profile for po' boy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Depending on your ability before camp, consider this:
If you’re an experienced player, ie you know many chords (maj, min, 7th 9th dim, etc.) in 2 or three places on the neck, and can pull them out at will, GO FOR IT! Take two classes (AM & PM) and as many workshops as you can absorb. If you’re a lesser player, (like me) consider taking one class and using the other time to seek out a "tutor" to help you get through what you just learned, and to fill in blanks in your existing playing. The support staff (Happy, Mike, Orville, Trevor, Piper and the rest) are all great players and teachers. As for the Student show, I second Bobbie’s advice. Either choose a new song, and don’t worry about a complete flame out, or choose something you know well, and have a teacher sit in. You won’t believe how good it sounds with their help. Plus it’s not often you have access to such talented "back-up" Don’t choose a song that you sort of know (I did) and have greater expectations of playing it well than you are able. You’ll spend too much time practicing it rather than practicing and playing classwork.
Have a swell time!
-Charles

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John B
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posted 08-09-2001 14:22     Click Here to See the Profile for John B   Click Here to Email John B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I second many of the comments so far. I attended last year's NY IGS.


  1. I had never played guitar in public, but figured that IGS would be the most receptive audience. It was.

  2. I played a song that I knew all the lyrics to (I brought some pages of lyrics with me to IGS, just in case I wanted to do something different). I had Orville Johnson back me up, because I knew I couldn't sing and play at the same time. I played the solo and some fills - and Orville's accompaniment made me sound ten times better than I would have otherwise.

  3. Because I knew the song, Orville and I only had to run through it once or twice before the performance (another advantage of having a professional providing support).

  4. I brought an OLD (1993) minidisc recorder with poor battery life and stereo-only recording (74 minutes max). I should have popped for a new one.

  5. I do listen to my minidiscs on an occasional basis - I'm glad I went through the trouble to record them.

  6. The most enjoyable after-hours jam sessions involved three or more people - it seems more collaborative to me than two. So grab a couple people and play.

  7. Earplugs were helpful.

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robino
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From: Lee, MA, USA
Registered: Jul 2001
posted 08-12-2001 00:11     Click Here to See the Profile for robino   Click Here to Email robino     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was my first IGS, and I guess I would have tried to bring my resonator guitar (I only brought one guitar flying from MA) and definitely a minidisc recorder. Also, I wish I hadn't just bought a fishman pickup, because Bob from Highlander was selling pickups at half price.
The main thing is just to relax and enjoy the quality and quantity of the music!

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MikeMcGuire
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From: Bishop, CA USA
Registered: Mar 2001
posted 08-18-2001 21:14     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeMcGuire   Click Here to Email MikeMcGuire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just did San Rafael for my first IGS and my motto was, "Regret is worse than failure." Put your rear-end on the line whenever you have the opportunity. You won't find a safer place if you can just check your ego at the door.

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