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Bobbie Raymond
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posted 04-09-2002 17:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobbie Raymond   Click Here to Email Bobbie Raymond     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an extra ticket for Sonny Rollins Saturday night at the Masonic. If you live in the area, know me, and are interested, let me know.

I heard Bill Frizell (featured in May Acoustic Guitar) Sunday night (with Joshua Redman, & bass and drums). Beautiful guitar playing--like an updated Joe Pass--chord melody, plus interesting lines and great duets with sax. They did arrangements from Sonny Rollins' The Bridge album.

I saw an arch top guitar I might buy made by a luthier named Anderson. Does anyone remember him from Healdsburg? It's a gorgeous flamed maple. Does anyone have info about what to look for or look out for with a floating pick-up? Also, it has flat-wound strings (Great!), but the tuners are black and look similar to classical style. Good or bad? I didn't have time to plug it in, but the size and feel were nice acoustically. Any info would be appreciated.

Have to add thanks for those great blues sites about the mojo magic!

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Tom Austin
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posted 04-09-2002 17:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Austin   Click Here to Email Tom Austin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen both Frisell and Redman play, though not together. What a show that would be!

I'm not sure if myself or Leha can make Saturday night, but I will pass it along to Leha and get back to you.

I don't remember Anderson from Healdsburg. Does he have a web site? Maybe that would job my memory.

At any rate, I trust your taste in archtops. If it makes you cry, it's the one.

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posted 04-09-2002 18:13     Click Here to See the Profile for W. Jebe   Click Here to Email W. Jebe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bobbie,

I would love to see that show but I'm going out of town with my family (spring break).
Sonny is one of the best musician you can see. I saw him the last time he was at the SFJAZZ and he never disappoints.

Concerning the Andersen, his guitars are right up there with the best luthiers and everyone I played was outstanding. Check out his web site www.andersenguitars.com

Have a good time at the show.

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Tom Austin
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posted 04-10-2002 09:27     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Austin   Click Here to Email Tom Austin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks, Walter!

Bobbie, Leha sends her regrets as well. Other things already scheduled. I know you'll find someone lucky enough to go.

Meanwhile, I'm going to check out the site.

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posted 04-10-2002 10:22     Click Here to See the Profile for mikeln   Click Here to Email mikeln     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At one time (several years ago) I looked into getting an Anderson Arch Top. His prices were very reasonable, I think there was a 6 month wait back then. Top quality guitar.

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Anderson is out of Seattle-I've played a few and they are great guitars. Prices are not as low as they once were, but then a well made archtop is going to hold it's value. A friend of mine is in the used archtop business and has a website http://www.archtop.com/index.html Last I looked he had an Anderson available. I got a 1945 epiphone triumph from him a few years back and dealing with him was real easy.

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Bobbie Raymond
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posted 04-12-2002 09:22     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobbie Raymond   Click Here to Email Bobbie Raymond     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks four billions. After I went to the web site for Anderson, I was sure the guitar I'd found was The One. It was the Streamline - not quite custom - but close.

So I rushed to the store to plug it in. As I pondered the fact that it only had a volume control, the salesperson thrust a Gibson L5 in my hands (new - with a volume and a tone control). It was even more wonderful (and the same price) but it was very heavy. So next he handed me an L4 (half the price - 4 controls - one with a sort of damping effect - quite fun).

Afterwards, I was lucky to talk to a number of knowledgeable friends and I bought a couple of books by Wheeler about American guitar history - I'm fascinated.

I've decided that what I want and need is an electric archtop (I can use a new acoustic also - but they need to be separate). My focus is changing from using the guitar to accompany my singing, to wanting to play jazz standards; so now seems to be the time to learn to play an electric. And you're right, Tom - when it cries, I'll know it's right for me. Sorry you or Leha can't make the show; maybe some other time. Thanks again to all of you for all the helpful stuff. I'm using it all.

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posted 04-12-2002 09:35     Click Here to See the Profile for mikeln   Click Here to Email mikeln     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My main "jazz" guitar is a 1934 Gibson L7. I converted the tuners to waverly (the old ones wouldn't hold), Built my own pickguard with a floating pickup and volume control. (kept all the original stuff of course!). I like it, it has the "swat" (as they say). Sounds great acoustically, and good amplified.

I also use a fairly new Epiphone Emporer Regent...mainly when I don't want to "endanger" the Gibson.

pictures: www.mikelnelson.com/instruments/otherguitars.html

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posted 04-12-2002 09:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Austin   Click Here to Email Tom Austin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>so now seems to be the time to learn to >play an electric

To be honest, I've never understood the outlook that says acoustic and electric guitars are completely different instruments.

Okay, they definitely are in terms of sound and vibe and feel, but in terms of the skills required to play them? No.

I play about equal acoustic and electric guitar. The big difference, to me, is that an electric produces sound much more efficiently in terms of decibels per muscular effort. That means you can rip along and play a million notes on an electric because of the low action and less muscular effort per note, but you also produce noise much more efficiently.

So the technique change from acoustic to electric is one of reducing your finger motion to the minimum, and increasing your attention to damping to the maximum.

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posted 04-12-2002 10:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeffrey Sipress   Click Here to Email Jeffrey Sipress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bobbie,

You are looking at some fine instruments. You can't get much better than an L5, although weight and size are considerations. Fortunately, there are a few great small builders producing stunning archtops. I sometimes play my '42 Epiphone Spartan which has a floating pickup, and two small controls on the pickguard. To me it is an acoustic guitar, and would be with the pickup or not. I also have one of those old D'Armond clamp-on type of pickup that I can attach to my Bacon archtop, but I usually leave it off. Either way, it is an acoustic guitar. When I think electric guitar, it is a strat, tele, les paul, or other similar type of thing.

And remember, it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing.....

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I drooled a lot over the pictures--you have some really beautiful instruments, mikeln. I would have gotten back here sooner, but I've been out sampling more guitars. Arch tops are considered to be acoustic instruments (even if it's laminated, but how that could be carved is something I'm trying to figure out). With a floating pick-up, you can still play acoustically. If you mount pick-us on the face of the guitar, it changes the sounds greatly. Arch tops have less sustain; but that is good for swing style. Those with pick-ups mounted on the body sound like jazz guitars to me, and when unplugged, I can at least hear what I'm playing. It's possible to get a multi-purpose guitar, but somehow I like the idea of finding the best guitar for a particular sound, which means, only play one style, or get lots of guitars.
The L5 is too heavy. The LS l75 is the usual entry-level jazz guitar, but it has a laminate top. The L4 has solid spruce. The semi-hollow body has a flat board in the middle with no acoustic sounds at all. BB King plays a Gibson ES 335 with no sound holes, I've been told.
My current guitar is a small-body, l964 Gibson (B-25) I added a pick-up and changed the bridge. It's easy to handle, but not enough volume. So I may need two new guitars. And it's a great adventure trying to choose.

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posted 04-17-2002 09:34     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Austin   Click Here to Email Tom Austin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>I like the idea of finding the best guitar for a particular sound, which means, only play one style, or get lots of guitars.

and we KNOW there's only one correct answer here.

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posted 04-17-2002 11:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Charles Freeborn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...unfortunately there is no single guitar, or car or surfboard or any number of other things that will work perfectly in all situations... therefore, enter capitalism...
Here are a couple of sources of finer instruments in our area: http://www.kleinguitars.com/
Blue Note Music 2556 Telegraph Ave. Berkeley 510.644-2585
And should you be interested in a vintage instrument: http://www.vintageinstruments.com
I'll be turning over my '35 L10 at some point but not for several months
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Bobbie Raymond
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posted 04-18-2002 09:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobbie Raymond   Click Here to Email Bobbie Raymond     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again for all your ideas -

Yes, indeed, now that I've started, why would I want to stop with two? Your guitars are awesome, Jeffrey. And definitely, the swing's the thing.

The fellow at Blue Note (James) started me on my quest for a floating pick-up. I didn't realize it's full significance at the time. The Anderson is at Gryphon's (Palo Alto). He's experimenting putting finished guitars in stores, as well as offering his custom-made models. Sylvan (Santa Cruz) would be the place to get a solid body - computer hook-ups and all.

I'm going back to Blue Note to try the Heritage l6 again, and then I'm going to Schoenberg's in Tiburon.

Although I've looked at some vintage guitars - and there are many out there - maybe for my third guitar I'll go for an old acoustic arch top. But for now, I can't resist a shiney, immaculate, knob-covered, easy-sliding, moderately priced, (red lacquer?) - what is it? - oh, yes, a guitar.

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Bobbie-i played a new Anderson Streamline at our local guitar joint-it was really nice, both unpluged and through an amp-thank god someone has already got an offer on it! I think you would be very happy with that Anderson.

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Bobbie-i played a new Anderson Streamline at our local guitar joint-it was really nice, both unpluged and through an amp-thank god someone has already got an offer on it! I think you would be very happy with that Anderson.

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Actually, yes, drDAve. I think I'll give it another try. I found another Gibson L4, but in vintage sunburst, for $500 more than the red one, otherwise no difference. Oh, gee. Then I began to wonder what I was going to use for my acoustic material, which makes up about 95% of what I play. I looked at some inexpensive stuff, but I do love a beautiful guitar! Thanks for thinking of me. I'm still checking the possibilities.

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I decided to look for a solid-body electric and found a Gibson Les Paul Studio that's a little heavy, but not large, with a 24.5 scale length. It's wine-colored, flamed maple, with gold humbuckers, and four black tone/volume knobs. (The case is lined with deep, fuzzy scarlet, and it has a coffin cover.) I'm very excited about playing it, too.

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A LES PAUL !?!?!? Wow, Bobbie, you're a real rocker now. Now you gotta get all kinds of amps and effects, and a truckload of earplugs. I've never owned a Les Paul, but when I tried them, I found them easy to play, but usually heavy. I think the Studio models are lighter. Usually when you buy one, it comes with a heavy duty strap, and the phone number of a good orthopedic surgeon.

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Well, my shoulders might complain (back to the dumbbells), but my fingers are ecstatic. They're bending and sliding and vibrating all over the place. The Studio is lighter than the Standard, enough to make a big difference, although I was impulsive and didn't get the exact figures. I was just so happy to find a playable guitar that sounded like I wanted it to. Oh, good - rock, too - I was thinking so hard about jazz and blues, I forgot all about that.

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If you like the Les Paul, but don't like the weight...you might try an ES-335 or (ES-135). I did that, years ago.

The neck goes "through" the pickups on all these models...the body is just different. (at least that was my experience). So they play very similarly.

Just some thoughts...

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Yes, I did try those you mention (the ES 135 and the ES 335). This has been a great eye-opening as well as ear-opening experience. When I began, I knew the sound I wanted, but not what kind of guitar would make it. Guitar players entering the world of performing jazz all run out to buy an ES-l75 while they yearn for the day they can afford an L5. Those that make it professionally have custom-designed guitars - by that time, they know their special talents and interests. I could afford a higher-end guitar, but I'm still learning the skills to play it. So the Les Paul is a compromise and a chance to experiment. Now I'm looking for a more responsive flat tip than my Gibson B-25. What's interesting is that the Les Paul has exactly the same neck. Other well-known electric solid-body guitars have greater distances between the frets (and I don't have spider-like fingers). And, some necks are wider, and some called vintage even have a huge lump on them called a V-style.
In the beginning I was bewildered by all the choices, but now I'm grateful for them. Now I know why you folks have truckloads of guitars. Acquiring them is a great pastime, too. It's sort of like after you visit Hawaii, eveyone always wants to know which island it was. At any rate, I'm not planning to stop my quest any time soon either. And about those amps. . .

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Ahhh, those amps. Bobbie, If your really considering an electric the amp is 50% of the sound. My personal favorite is a black face Deluxe Reverb by Fender. Great sound ,size and power(22watts). I use mine for 80% of my gigs with full bands.

Oops! The electric side is creeping out.

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POLYTONE!!!!! I believe this is what Jim Hall and Joe Pass used......

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Another thought Bobbie, scale is an important requirement from your previous comments. Les Pauls are 24 3/4 as well as 125's, 135's, and 175's. You might want to try a Byrdland or a 350T (23 1/2) or a ES 140 (22 3/4) aka 3/4 scale. If your at a store and are not sure what the scale is just have them measure the distance between the nut and bridge. I have a Collings Baby, 3/4 scale flat top, that I traveling with. People with smaller hands love to play this thing. Gryphon has one in stock if you want to try the neck out.

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amps?
w/a les paul, a marshall is a nice choice. just kidding...
one jazzer rule of thumb for good tone is if you have a gibson gitar get a fender amp . personally i'd recommend a princeton reverb. they're a loud 12 watts, particularly if you replace the 10" speaker with a 12" & get a few simple tweeks done by your amp tech. (check out the tonequest site for an article entitled "40 watts of whoop ass" for many ideas on ways of optomizing your fender amp)i mean i can play w/a real loud drummer & only turn it up to 5. it helps if you push the from end a little w/a box of some sort, like a tube screamer w/the distortion turned almost off. once you get yr amp check out weber speakers, btw. they rule.
polytone amps? they're great. i used a 50 watt one for years in a punk band. i couldn't hurt it. they're indestructable.

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ah, the joys of a plugged-in electric...I have never understood the people who put up walls between acoustic and electric.

Anyway, here's a thought: amps are heavy and expensive. They're a commitment.

I happen to be the temporary custodian of a Line6 POD 2.0 amp simulator. No, it's not an exact reproduction of a vintage tube amp. But it's pleasingly close. A click of a switch and I go from a pre-CBS blackface twin to a Marshall Plexi. And so on.

And, I got it on ebay for just over two hundred cimoleans. Bobbie, you might consider borrowing or buying one of these devices. You can effectively play around with a dozen different amps. From there, you will identify tones that speak to you.


From there, you can go out and buy that amp.

I think that's better than putting down a grand on an amp and discovering six months later you really wanted that other one.

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Well, I'm ready to go out checking those amps and those other guitars as well. I'm indebted to you Walter and, hi-there, Kyle, and all. I asked the presenter at the jazzmaster's workshop what he thought about a Les Paul for jazz and he told a funny story about a colleague who liked the tone of his Fender, but was kidded for years about when he was going to get a real guitar. He asked me what I planned to do with it. Well, I'm not sure, but I'm crazy about it.
I'm told that I need to have a tube amp for the best sound for this guitar. I have a small Peavey with one input and a portable Yamaha with three inputs, one for vocal. Your idea is well worth considering, Tom. I'll soon be off to local electronics emporiums to see what I can find. I have to carry whatever it is up two flights of stairs; so it can't be too heavy. I have a good leather strap for the guitar and it's working fine so far. I'm putting together a new style of singing and playing, but it's a secret for now.

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Hold the phone. You were so right, Jeffrey. The Les Paul proved to be way too heavy, and won't work very well for jazz or blues, since it's basically a rock guitar. So I took it back. I didn't realize why the amp was so much a part of it either, but now I do. I tried the ES-l35 again and it's too heavy, also, and best for blues. They were out of stock of practically everything else. But I'm going to look at more arch tops of one sort or another, especially since now I've gotten magnetized - thumbs up on the Polytone for jazz, by the way. Thanks again.

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"The Les Paul proved to be way too heavy, and won't work very well for jazz or blues..."

Hmmmm.

Speaking of some jazz stuff: I've heard that the "Wizard of Waukesha" can be seen once a week playing jazz and blues on the guitar that he created at a club in New York called Fat Tuesdays. Is this still true? Have any of you Big Apple types made the pilgrimage recently? I've considered making a long weekend trip just to see and hear him. I hear that he is down to mobility in just a few fingers ironically much like Django to whom he was often compared early in his career.

In the new issue of Acoustic Guitar Magazine Bill Frisell talks about the Anderson Archtop that he used on the new album. He also mentions using one of Steve Klein's guitars.

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I'm not familiar with the Wizard, but I've heard of Fat Tuesdays. I can recommend Bert Bertoncini who plays at La Madeleine. Trevor and Woody can give you details.
I tried hard to see Bill Frizell's guitar - it looked like a large squashed amoeba from the side. He played with the end of the neck facing the audience the entire time. A local guitar dealer here said Anderson and Frizell lived next door to one another in Seattle at one time.
I purchased another guitar-this time a proper jazz guitar. It's a Heritage 5 hundred something (Custom). It's similar to the Gibson L4. The distance between the lower bouts is greater, but the depth is less, so it's easier to reach the fretboard at the cutaway. I tried it through an Ampeg amp - it seems like a good one to get. They had the POD, too. And, oh yes, the guitar is blond maple (feathered, ribbed, sort of like a tawny tabby cat that went through an earthquake) with white binding and silver and black hardware and fretboard. It was made by four luthiers in Kalamazoo, Michigan.
I must admit I miss the Les Paul. I could have hung it on the wall and just admired it. Did you know there's also a Gibson Mary Ford model? It's a rock guitar, too.

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Last June, Les Paul had his regular gig at the "Iridium", next to the met. I think he still plays there once a week.

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good choice, Bobbie. Heritage is based in Kalamazoo. What they are is luthiers that worked for Gibson and didn't want to go to Nashville when the factory moved. So there's some guitar "heritage" there.

It sounds like a beautiful guitar. Looking forward to hearing your new playing style.

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Bobbie,

sounds like you found a gem of a guitar. I went to their web site http://www.heritageguitar.com/models/H575Custom.htm check it out and see if it's the same model you bought.

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You fellows are jewels. Yes, I'd heard the story of Heritage as luthiers who left Gibson. Actually, it seems like Gibson left them. I had looked at a couple of Heritages, but they didn't speak to me. (the l6 and the Golden Eagle).
What a God-send these web sites are. The model number (which was in the F-hole) is H-550 and it's antique natural. You were close, Walter, but it's not quite that nice, although it's quite nice. It has the word custom on the peghead, but perhaps that refers to the pick guard that matches the guitar. If there are any other differences, I haven't found them. I was surprized that I hadn't noticed the 25 and a half inch range, but the width and depth were like my own Gibson. And it works out to possibly a one-sixteenth inch difference at each fret - not to worry.
I was afraid to ask why the bridge was at a slant, fearing some sort of defect; so was glad to learn it must be an adjustable bridge. The tone had lots of presence, especially the bassier notes - maybe the amp influence, but at least it was capable. And it has flat-wound strings!
The manager was so interested in selling this guitar to me that he discounted it 25% below the sale price. It was to go on E-bay that night; and it was a half hour before closing time. I had decided a (pressed) laminated top in an electric wasn't so critical (as in an acoustic), plus I didn't want to spend too much money, yet I wanted a good instrument. I think it'll please me for quite awhile. I'll let you know how the amp turns out.

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posted 05-03-2002 19:16     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobbie Raymond   Click Here to Email Bobbie Raymond     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the Polytone was the best amp to produce a jazz sound (as produced by my jazz icons). I bought the Mega Brute. It's solid state, by the way, and it's easily portable. I have a bit to learn about adjusting all the knobs, but that is what I asked for, I now recall.

I'm looking forward to trying out this new sound and putting it all together with the music.

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posted 05-03-2002 20:41           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bobbie, i am glad you like the polytone, I want to get one too. Another contender for me are mesa amps, these seem to be great amps as well. I hope to see you at IGS so we can talk Jazz, I have recently become addicted to jazz.....Got any listening recommendations?

Kyle

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posted 05-04-2002 08:54     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobbie Raymond   Click Here to Email Bobbie Raymond     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll check out the Mesas, Kyle - once bitten, who can stop. I'm glad you like jazz - it's a great partner to the blues.

I listen to KCSM a lot. It's the San Mateo jazz station, 91.1. They're having another jazz festival, Jazz on the Hill, June 1 and 2. Two stages outdoors on separate hills - it's really nice.

I'm fortunate to be able to hear lots of live music. I get cds of performers of songs I want to learn. Of all the singers, Ella Fitzgerald can't be beat. And she performed with just about every major jazz player - from Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, Joe Pass, Herb Ellis, on and on. I also get guitar-solo versions of the songs.

I wouldn't recommend this particularly, because it adds another style, but I started a Brazilian guitar-styles class; so I've got those classics on my list, too - it's just really beautiful. It would be great to get together, Kyle, and talk jazz. What are you listening to?

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Well today I went down and bought the Montreux '77 lp of Joe Pass, it is really good. It is almost all blues though but it really shows how versatile he is. BUt I have been listening to a lot of Joe Pass, my favorite is Chops which is a duo CD between Joe and Orsted Pederson. I have also been listening to the CD Jim Hall and Pat Metheny put out, it is fantastic, I love there version of summertime. Also I would recommend the album that Ray Brown, Christian McBride and John Clayton Jr. put out called superbass, I prefer the second one (there are 2). My other current favorite Jazz CD is The Sermon by Jimmy Smith, it has a great line up with Kenny Burrell (guitar), Tina Brooks (alto) etc.

Kyle

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posted 05-04-2002 19:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Bobbie Raymond   Click Here to Email Bobbie Raymond     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For a moment I thought you'd bought a new amp - you have great taste. Incidentally, maybe I think so because you have listed my most favorite performers. I have different albums. I heard Jim Hall at the Herbst about two years ago and loved it. In a question/answer period a little kid asked loudly, "Is that a stratocaster you're playing?

I also heard Ray Brown and Christian McBride - a more modern style than bebop - can't think what it's called. Knocked me over.

I guess Joe Pass is my favorite because I expecially like chord-melody style. I have Blues Dues, Portraits of Duke Ellington, and my favorite, Unforgettable (all standards).
(I once thought I'd try to learn all of these, but somehow I haven't gotten very far.) Have you heard of "Out of the Past", fingerstle duets - Duck Baker and Jamie Findlay - they were here recently - wonderful!

You've got me thinking - it's great to share. I'll look for some you've mentioned.

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