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Kurt Member ![]() Posts: 1508 From: Suffern, NY USA Registered: Nov 1999 |
I thought I'd start a parallel thread where we can talk about what to do with the song we're writing or make suggestions to tame this beast. I'll try to find time to edit what we have into a verse / chorus type of structure. Probably what we need first is a good chorus with a title. Don't know when I'll have time so if anybody else wants to take a stab at it, please feel free. We can use this thread for posting entire verses, choruses or bridges. We'll see what happens... IP: Logged |
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Rick Brodsky Member Posts: 174 From: connecticut Registered: Feb 2000 |
what key do you think it should be in? if we were to perform it at a gig do we credit all 50 authors? who is going to record it? what about royalties? IP: Logged |
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Jeffrey Sipress Member ![]() Posts: 1335 From: Santa Barbara, CA Registered: Nov 1999 |
Do I have to join ASCAP to recieve my huge royalties? IP: Logged |
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Mike D Member ![]() Posts: 1393 From: Phx, Az Registered: Dec 2000 |
Oh, I guess I should mention that I've already recorded and released it overseas. Ya'll owe me 2,000,000,000,000 yen in back royalties. IP: Logged |
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Kurt Member ![]() Posts: 1508 From: Suffern, NY USA Registered: Nov 1999 |
It should definitely be played in the key of "J." IP: Logged |
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Dennis Roger Reed Moderator Posts: 1901 From: San Clemente, CA USA Registered: Sep 2000 |
As anyone that has ever written a song before knows, we've done the easy and most fun part. Now re-writing, editing, and formatting is the WORK part of it. Too big a job for me to take on right now, but here's what I think we've got so far: There was an old shoebox in my car, full of misery and a miniature crow bar No shoes, no shoes, what shall we do, go on drinking like those little crows do Let’s crow around and around again, crowing them old shoe shoebox blues. You know a shoebox ain’t nothin’ but cardboard and glue But a bar full of crows grows and grows. There was an old lady who lived in New Orleans, she only drank Bourbon to suppress her dreams Three bottles a day, kept the tremors away But she looked pretty good when she was cleaning her den She howled like a wolf, she smoked like a fiend Her gaze was like fire putting on those low rise jeans Let’s crow around and around again, crowing them old shoe shoebox blues. There was an old woman who lived deep inside, she had so many children thank god her hips were wide So I could swim to the other side Lord, lord, lord, lord, somebody help me please, cause she let out a hiccup that brought me to my knees But that hiccup was followed by a phlegmatic wheeze Lord, lord, lord, lord, somebody help me breathe The undertaker laughed at the little crow bar but only felt chaffed when he saw the car. I try’n to tell you people rules are rules, and fools are fools and the sciatica blues is cruel Put my shoes in your shoebox, Mama… and sooth my achin’ soles. We don’t need socks for our smelly feet just a place in Morningside Heights But life wouldn’t be complete without my old guitar and my guitar playin’ seat. IP: Logged |
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Eddie Punch Member Posts: 1361 From: Freiburg, Germany Registered: Nov 1999 |
Hey Dennis you beat me by seconds ! We have finished what brainstormers call the the "green phase". That's where every one can do and say what they want without critic. Now we must boldly enter the "red phase" where it gets taken apart (analyse) and put togeather in a meaningfull way (synthesis). The best way would be to put all the lines on a pinboard, shove them around, then connect several possable threads with pins & um, threads. We may even get two songs here. Let's get on it ! Eddie
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Lovat Fraser unregistered |
well, I 'm getting a real speed metal mid 80's poodle-rock vibe off this now...David Coverdale screaming type thing...double drum kit ...! Or maybe a Chuck Berry "Havana Moon" story. Or if all else fails reggae in g... Aiming to see Prof.Broz on thursday.Get it figured out and I pass it to him at the interval. adios, IP: Logged |
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Corn Dog Member Posts: 1765 From: Montclair, NJ USA Registered: Jan 2001 |
Ok, I'll be the straw person to get the "red phase" going. For this evening's musical project, here's some lyrical editing and structure, and a demo:
[Chorus] She only drank Bourbon [Chorus] Her hips made me swim [Chorus] Put my shoes [Chorus & Outro]
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Jeffrey Sipress Member ![]() Posts: 1335 From: Santa Barbara, CA Registered: Nov 1999 |
Wow, Cham, what a job! You can keep my shares of the royalties. A great little minor feel storytelling number. OK, how about other interpretations. you guys? Swing, shuffle, ragtime, or hawaiian versions would be interesting. IP: Logged |
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Eddie Punch Member Posts: 1361 From: Freiburg, Germany Registered: Nov 1999 |
I propose that the first public performance of "Shoebox Blues" should be at the IGS NY 2K2 Student Concert and be performed by "Shoestring Kurt and the Loose Heels." Corn Dog: Well done ! It's growing on me by the minute. L'Internet, c'se fantastic, n'est pas vrai ? Eddie IP: Logged |
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Dennis Roger Reed Moderator Posts: 1901 From: San Clemente, CA USA Registered: Sep 2000 |
Another slight re-write: as an anal retentive, and a songwriter, I wanted the rhyme scheme to match. So I'm certainly not married to any of my new rhymes, but this has a better cadence for singing: There was an old shoebox left in my car She only drank Bourbon, to suppress her dreams. IP: Logged |
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Tom Austin Member Posts: 3404 From: Occidental, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 |
I like it. the rhyme scheme was making me itch a bit, too. IP: Logged |
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Kurt Member ![]() Posts: 1508 From: Suffern, NY USA Registered: Nov 1999 |
Great stuff guys. We're gonna get a good song out of this. I just got home from little league and I've got some reading to do now, but I'll grab a guitar and take this baby out for a spin tomorrow afternoon. I've found that the editing process can go on for months or more. But you never know, sometimes things fall into place quickly. We'll definitely have something to kick around at guitar camp. IP: Logged |
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W. Jebe Member Posts: 171 From: Registered: Sep 2000 |
Great job Dennis! The song makes more sense and has a better rhythm. Walt IP: Logged |
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Corn Dog Member Posts: 1765 From: Montclair, NJ USA Registered: Jan 2001 |
OK, lets run with it! [This message has been edited by Corn Dog (edited May 07, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Lovat Fraser unregistered |
Well , saw the unstoppable Prof.Broz in a lovely wee theatre tonight. A full on poly rythymic tour of the world ensued.My favs were a explosive "Come on in My Kitchen " and a Blind Blake rampage on the charango ...I was watching it ...but I still couldn't fully take it in...! Anyway it seems Oz beckons our intrepid musical anthropoligist. adios, Never mentioned the IP: Logged |
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keith unregistered |
Nice! One editing suggestion: Second verse: She only drank bourbon, to suppress her dreams Three bottles a day made her loose at the seams Seems to flow better and still in the same context.For what it's worth! IP: Logged |
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Tom Austin Member Posts: 3404 From: Occidental, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 |
I like Keith's suggestion.
I also regretting losing the "lord, lord, lord", but that's the nature of editing, init? If your favorite line gets cut, don't worry. We'll be spinning a hundred different "regional variations" on this song by this time next year. IP: Logged |
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Corn Dog Member Posts: 1765 From: Montclair, NJ USA Registered: Jan 2001 |
Here's another take on the tune: P.O.D.-like rap/hip hop. Lower tech this time since I was bouncing tracks between tapes. Again, the vocal is for phrasing purposes only! http://www.randsullivan.com/igsmusic/ShoeboxRap3.mp3
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Corn Dog Member Posts: 1765 From: Montclair, NJ USA Registered: Jan 2001 |
I have updated the above post of "Shoebox Blues Rap" to a better audio version. [This message has been edited by Corn Dog (edited May 22, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Corn Dog Member Posts: 1765 From: Montclair, NJ USA Registered: Jan 2001 |
It looks like Shoebox Rap has been picked up by one of the MP3 crawlers, MP3Raid, and added to their database of MP3 downloads. They haven't copied it, just referenced it back to the file in my web server. Consequently, I can track access to it. Oddly, I've seen some requests for it! I find it curious that that MP3 was pulled rather than any of the other MP3s of my arrangements that I have on my web server. Does someone actually screen the entries the crawler finds before they go into the database? Maybe someone from here added it to the database? Adrian, or anyone else, do you know anything about these folks? Nice to know we are now in the creative company of Britney Spears naked pix, topless Anna Kournikova, the notorious Pamela Anderson humping video, and thousands of bootlegged music files? [This message has been edited by Corn Dog (edited January 31, 2003).] IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
I think they probably found that song by following a link to it from another site or by crawling your site searching for interesting title words, e.g. rap IP: Logged |
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mizmermaid24 Member Posts: 1 From: Manchester, NH USA Registered: May 2004 |
Can anyone help me with this? I Wasn't Your Shadow I wasn't your shadow I love you, baby. I got all the wrongs I try so hard I wasn't your shadow What I do wrong? I got all the wrongs I love you, baby. I wasn't your shadow IP: Logged |
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