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SwtDaddy
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posted 07-16-2002 10:23     Click Here to See the Profile for SwtDaddy   Click Here to Email SwtDaddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know the "story" or history behind the song "St. James Informary"? Or send me to a site to find out.

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Adrian Freed
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posted 07-16-2002 22:14     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This has been extensively studied.
Here is a starting point for much that has been said on the subject: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=46310

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posted 07-17-2002 00:35           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The song is a relative of The Unfortunate Rake. According to Michael Gray, Blind WIllie McTell's "Dyin' Crapshooter Blues" is based on "St. James Infirmary," and Bob Dylan's "Blind Willie McTell" (which lifts its melody from "St. James Infirmary") is an update of all these damn songs. Got that?

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SwtDaddy
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posted 07-17-2002 08:13     Click Here to See the Profile for SwtDaddy   Click Here to Email SwtDaddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't through to the server for mudcat. Other options?

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Adrian Freed
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posted 07-17-2002 09:10     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mudcat was available to me this morning. Here is one message from that list:

The record Jerry mentions is The Unfortunate Rake: A Study in the Evolution of a Ballad (Notes by Kenneth Goldstein) (Folkways FA 2305, 1960) [LP], which includes:

SIDE I
1. The Unfortunate Rake (Sung by A.L. Lloyd)
2. The Trooper Cut Down in His Prime (Sung by Ewan MscColl)
3. The Youg Sailor Cut Down in His Prime (Sung by Harry Cox)
4. Noo I'm a Young Man Cut Down in My Prime (Sung by Willie Mathieson)
5. The Bad Girl's Lament (Sung by Wade Hemsworth)
6. One Mornign in May (Sung by Hally Wood)
7. Bright Summer Morning (Sing by Mrs. Viola Penn)
8. The Girl in the Dilger Case (Sung by D.K. Wilgus)
9. The Cowboy's Lament (Sung by Bruce Buckley)
10. The Streets of Laredo (Sung by Harry Jackson)

SIDE II
1. St. James Hospital (Sung by Alan Lomax)
2. Gambler's Blues (Sung by Dave Van Ronk)
3. I Once Was a Carman in the Big Mountain Con (Sung by Guthrie Meade)
4. The Lineman's Hymn (Sung by Rosalie Sorrels)
5. The Wild Lumberjack (Sung by Kenneth S. Goldstein)
6. A Sun Valley Song (Sung by Jan Brunvand)
7. The Ballad of Bloody Thursday (Sung by John Greenway)
8. The Streets of Hamtramck (Sung by Bill Friedland)
9. The Ballad of Sherman Wu (Sung by Pete Seeger)
10. The Professor's Lament (Sung by Roger Abrahams)

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SwtDaddy
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posted 07-17-2002 10:55     Click Here to See the Profile for SwtDaddy   Click Here to Email SwtDaddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got on. Thanks.

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