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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
Time to demonstrate our collective expertise on prewar blues: 1) Which musician who was not from Mississippi had his best friend's girl stolen back again? 2) Name a minor-key blues about execution. 3) Name a song using the melody of "Sittin' On Top Of The World" played on a 12-string and not listed in this thread. [This message has been edited by Adrian Freed (edited October 15, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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stagolee Member Posts: 589 From: Fullerton, CA, USA Registered: Aug 2002 |
Are we allowed to answer one at a time? 'Cause I got the 2nd one... Rope Stretching Blues by Blind Blake IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
Yes, it's not an individual competition. IP: Logged |
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hoodadoo Member Posts: 2011 From: Westport, Ct., Registered: Mar 2001 |
Question 3 has to be Blind Willie McTell, I just have to find the song....with a remote possibilty of it being Leadbelly. My gut instinct says McTell. I'll go with "Cold Winter Day", Blind Willie McTell [This message has been edited by hoodadoo (edited October 12, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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I am Ubiquitous Member Posts: 27 From: SC/CA/USA Registered: Oct 2002 |
Well 3 could also be: Robert Hicks, Charley Lincoln, Willie Baker or maybe George Carter? And 2 could be illinios blues by skip james? [This message has been edited by I am Ubiquitous (edited October 12, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
hoodadoo has question 3 right. I had Rope Stretchin' Blues in mind for #2, and I hear Illinois Blues is a more of "I gave that woman everything, and she did me wrong" type of blues. [This message has been edited by Adrian Freed (edited October 13, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
You are nailing these so fast I better come up with some more: 4) What is that God doesn't like? 5) What is being killed in "Kill it Kid"? 6) John Cephas wants us to mash down those strings. Who doesn't want his digger mashed down deep? 7) How many women does Blind Joe Reynolds have? 8) Who played two keyboard instruments and guitar? 9) The first recorded bottleneck song of Rev. Gary Davis [This message has been edited by Adrian Freed (edited October 13, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Scott Jacobs Moderator ![]() Posts: 3460 From: Port Charlotte, FL Registered: Apr 2001 |
Uh, Pat, I think I'd like to buy a vowel. IP: Logged |
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Eddie Punch Member Posts: 1361 From: Freiburg, Germany Registered: Nov 1999 |
8)I'll go for Big Bill Broonzy IP: Logged |
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hoodadoo Member Posts: 2011 From: Westport, Ct., Registered: Mar 2001 |
I thought I had another answer that would work for number 2. I had to double check if Bessie Smith's "Send Me To The 'Lectric Chair" was in a minor key, it's not, Alex Trabek. For # 4, I know God didn't make little green apples!:-) I'll say Moonshine, White Lightning # 6 might be Bo Carter [This message has been edited by hoodadoo (edited October 13, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Hambone Member Posts: 642 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Jan 2000 |
#4 Drinkin' 'shine IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
Yes, you have #4 and #6 right. I was thinking of someone else for #8. I was thinking of a guy for whom neither guitar nor piano were his first instrument. IP: Logged |
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stagolee Member Posts: 589 From: Fullerton, CA, USA Registered: Aug 2002 |
I'm gonna take a stab at Question 1-- K.C. Douglas has that "stole her back again" line in his original version of Mercury Blues. Was he from the Delta? Anybody know? IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
"One of the original first-generation Mississippi bluesmen, K. C. Douglas (1913-1975), was influenced by the 1920s recordings of Tommy Johnson, eventually meeting, then busking with his mentor in the early 1940s. Rather than moving to Chicago, as did so many of his contempories, he followed work west to the U.S. naval shipyards of Vallejo, California in 1945. There he joined the San Francisco/Oakland Bay blues scene, and was a fixture in Bay area clubs until his death. " IP: Logged |
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stagolee Member Posts: 589 From: Fullerton, CA, USA Registered: Aug 2002 |
damn, damn, damn.... and I was doing so well... IP: Logged |
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dmills Member Posts: 183 From: Santa Cruz, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 |
#5 A bottle of booze? IP: Logged |
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mr mando Member Posts: 1026 From: Heart of the Alps Registered: Apr 2001 |
#1 was probably Blind Boy Fuller, because he re-used every single bluesline ever recorded. #5 must be a diddie wah diddie or something similar. Anyway, this question is disqualified as B.W.McTell recorded "Kill It Kid" only in '49, as far as I remember. #7 depends on which of his songs you believe: in Nehi he states to be a single man, so the answer would be zero. On the other hand, he had a wife and an outside woman in outside woman blues. Maybe he became a single man when his wife discovered the outside woman. And don't forget the third street woman, which might be the same as the outside woman. One woman would be definitely the wrong answer therefore. So it's either 0, 2 or 3. He didn't get very old?? It's three then. #8 should be Lonnie Johnson, whose first instrument was violin and who played piano, guitar, mandolin, banjo, bass and organ too. If it's not Johnson, it's probably a member of the Chatmon family. #9 I don't remember a bottleneck piece among Rev. Davis' prewar recordings. The only bottleneck piece I heard him play is "whistlin' blues", but that would be post war again. Now I got a question: 10 Which guitarist is thought to have refined his guitar technique in Europe during WWI? [This message has been edited by mr mando (edited October 14, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Eddie Punch Member Posts: 1361 From: Freiburg, Germany Registered: Nov 1999 |
10) - I'm sticking to Big Bill Broonzy. (He'll have to be the answer to at least one question here !) IP: Logged |
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mr mando Member Posts: 1026 From: Heart of the Alps Registered: Apr 2001 |
BBB is not the one I thought about, think harder, my friend!! But I'll think of a question for you which has BBB as an answer if Adrian doesn't. IP: Logged |
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hoodadoo Member Posts: 2011 From: Westport, Ct., Registered: Mar 2001 |
# 7 unless it is a trick question, dah!, 2. Mr.Mando, for a guitarist to be in WW1, they had to be born around the turn of the century. Without researching, someone like Tamps Red, or Mississippi John Hurt seems to fit the bill. Hmmmmm, the it may be too easy clue.....we know it's not Elvis! [This message has been edited by hoodadoo (edited October 14, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Bob Brozman Member Posts: 2590 From: Brozmanistan, Earth Registered: Nov 1999 |
#10 Buddy boy Hawkins picked up a few tricks in Europe in ww1 IP: Logged |
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Dennis Roger Reed Moderator Posts: 1901 From: San Clemente, CA USA Registered: Sep 2000 |
From the internet: • Sgt. Alvin York, well known as perhaps the greatest sharpshooter in military history, was also a noted hillbilly guitarist, primarily playing spiritual music. After his feats at the Battle of the Argonne Forest (in the fall of 1918, as a member of the 82nd division, he killed 25 Germans, knocked out 35 machine guns, and captured 132 prisoners almost single-handed) York met a black American orderly known only as Son. Finding Son to be a proficient guitarist, York adapted his strumming style to include “wielding the knife,” a style wherein a small pocket knife is pulled along the strings of the guitar in an attempt to approximate the sound of the human voice. Son was later killed in a kitchen explosion, but York took this style back to his native Tennessee, where he played until his death in 1964. • York was known for his modesty and his ability to spurn commercialization of his talents. When approached by Okeh Records in 1926 to record some of the spiritual tunes he had refined with the pocket knife style, he stated “This here guitar is not for sale.” • During the folk blues revival in the late 1950’s, York was tracked down by John Fahey and several other students of the blues tradition. York was quoted as saying “It’s over, let’s just forget about it” when a request was made to record his haunting tunes on an LP record. • Heard only by those that attended church services where he occasionally performed, York’s musical talent went with him to his grave. • This entire account is almost totally fabricated, with only the sharpshooter references bearing any resemblance to the truth. IP: Logged |
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mr mando Member Posts: 1026 From: Heart of the Alps Registered: Apr 2001 |
Prof Brozman knew who I was thinking of. See how easy it was!! Even a novice to pre-war blues knew the right answer! I see, you need a tougher one. 11) Which prewar blues singer and guitar player mentioned the names of German cities Minden and Freiburg in his most famous song? There's a hint for Mr. Punch: It's not Big Bill Broonzy. [This message has been edited by mr mando (edited October 14, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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hoodadoo Member Posts: 2011 From: Westport, Ct., Registered: Mar 2001 |
Ouch! Mr. Mando, the "even a novice....", that hurt. :-) IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
#1 If it was Blind Boy Fuller you have to name the song... A not very helpfull clue: the line was recorded before Skip James did. #5 "Kill it Kid" was first recorded by McTell in 1940 http://www.vaz1.com/bill/music/McTell/McTell_discography.html #8: I didn't have Lonnie Johnson in mind so let's make it easier: the other keyboard instrument is not the organ. #7: This one is tricky because the answer is in a song that was only recently discovered IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
#11: King Solomon Hill aka Joe Holmes from Minden, Louisiana? IP: Logged |
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Eddie Punch Member Posts: 1361 From: Freiburg, Germany Registered: Nov 1999 |
There is a song called "Germany Blues" by, um.....what's his name.....but I don't remember Freiburg being mentioned in it. I live in Freiburg so I wouldn't forget it. I've been to Minden, it's near Hannover and has a good jazz club where I saw the guy that played the Sax on the "Pink Panther" theme but he didn't come to Freiburg. The "What's his name" that wrote "Germany Blues" is Fred McDowell. He was buried in a Gold Lamé suit that the Roling Stones bought for him. John Cephas has been to Freiburg (before I knew him)but I don't realy think he's "pre war" although he did serve in Korea. I've forgotten what the question was. Could you repeat for me ? please. IP: Logged |
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mr mando Member Posts: 1026 From: Heart of the Alps Registered: Apr 2001 |
Adrian is right. The song is "gone dead train", BTW. IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
To summarize: 1) Which musician who was not from Mississippi had his best friend's girl stolen back again? 4) What is that God doesn't like? 6) John Cephas wants us to mash down those strings. Who doesn't want his digger mashed down deep? 9) The first recorded bottleneck song of Rev. Gary Davis 11) Which prewar blues singer and guitar player mentioned the names of German cities Minden and Freiburg in his most famous song? IP: Logged |
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mr mando Member Posts: 1026 From: Heart of the Alps Registered: Apr 2001 |
#7 Could it really be that the long searched for "99 Blues" by BJ Reynolds has finally been found?? Is this the song Adrian's giving us the clue to? Is the 99 in the title really referring to the # of women BJ had? The answer really would be 99 then? Where is this song available? 8bis) If his first instrument was the accordion, hell comes to my mind immediately. So maybe it was the "Devil's Son-In-Law", Peetie Wheetstraw. IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
Yep, 99 was found and it is a good one and the answer to the question: . You can download an mp3 of this and the B side from the collector's web site. [This message has been edited by Adrian Freed (edited October 17, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
I can't find any record of Peetie Wheetstraw playing guitar. He did play with: Kokomo Arnold, Charlie McCoy, Bumble Bee Slim, Casey Bill Weldon, Charley Jordan and especially Lonnie Johnson IP: Logged |
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stagolee Member Posts: 589 From: Fullerton, CA, USA Registered: Aug 2002 |
Didn't Leadbelly record with an accordion-like instrument? IP: Logged |
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fp Member Posts: 1 From: Calif. Registered: Oct 2002 |
Wheatstraw played guitar on at least 6 tunes for Vocalion in the early 30's. One of them...Keyhole Blues is pretty close to Muddy's Gypsy Woman. Is #5 Toddy? [This message has been edited by fp (edited October 17, 2002).] [This message has been edited by fp (edited October 17, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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hoodadoo Member Posts: 2011 From: Westport, Ct., Registered: Mar 2001 |
Who found 99? John Tefteller? IP: Logged |
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Eddie Punch Member Posts: 1361 From: Freiburg, Germany Registered: Nov 1999 |
12) Here's a hard one The answer to the question is: What's the question ? IP: Logged |
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I am Ubiquitous Member Posts: 27 From: SC/CA/USA Registered: Oct 2002 |
"Peetie Wheastraw was a best-selling bluesman of the thirties who recorded most of his songs on piano. SLEEPLESS NIGHTS BLUES, a guitar vehicle in the key of E, is his characteristic guitar blues demonstrating his unique style at its most frantic. Only in his lack of pattern picking does Wheatstraw's right hand take on a fully regional pattern." This is from the CD liner notes of "St. Louis Blues: 1929-1935" released on yazoo. The cover of the cd shows a pic of Wheatstraw with a style 3 national tricone. Peetie recorded 4 sides of solo guitar and vocals on Vocalion in 1932, along with SLEEPLESS NIGHTS BLUES he recorded CANT SEE BLUES, POLICE STATION BLUES and ALL ALONE BLUES. He also played guitar on one side for decca with his "blues blowers" which was released in 1934. [This message has been edited by I am Ubiquitous (edited October 17, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Richard Chizek Member Posts: 463 From: Republic of Chizekistan Registered: Aug 2000 |
Hey Adrian - Thanks for the pre-war education, and for sharing that 'lost' recording. Yes, indeed. IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
You are welcome, Richard, I am learning a lot too. I am realizing that many of these musicians played multiple instruments. This makes sense since the guitar was portable but not as loud as the piano and for church the organ would be common. It's a distortion we have to think about when we hear the recordings of these artists. Not only are we hearing a fraction of their repertoire but we may never hear them playing instruments they regularly played either because they only recorded a few songs or for some they became so successful they focussed on one instrument, e.g, Lonnie Johnson and Peetie Wheatstraw. [This message has been edited by Adrian Freed (edited October 17, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member ![]() Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
Yes it was Leadbelly I was thinking of for #8. Let me clarify #5 by asking what doesBlind Willie McTell want you to do when you "Kill it Kid"? IP: Logged |
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