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Adrian Freed
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posted 10-22-2002 15:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just let me know if you are fed up these quizes. It is a lot easier to come up with the questions than find the answers.

We still need answers to the following from the first quiz:

5) What is being killed in "Kill it Kid"? Or to ask it another way: what does Blind Willie McTell want you to do when you "Kill it Kid"?
9) The first recorded bottleneck song of Rev. Gary Davis
Clue: it's not whistlin' blues

Here are the new questions:
13) What song recorded in the prewar period has the same melody and arrangement as Rev. Gary Davis's Whistlin' Blues? For a bonus point: is it in the same tuning Davis used (Open D6)?
14) Name a blues about smelling bad.
15) Name a bluesman with a name that includes a carpenter's tool.


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resin8er
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Was it Blind Plane Chisel?

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Dennis Roger Reed
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posted 10-22-2002 15:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis Roger Reed   Click Here to Email Dennis Roger Reed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
14. Garbage Man Blues - Will Hatcher

And not just about smelling bad... it's about dining from garbage cans.

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I am Ubiquitous
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posted 10-22-2002 16:03     Click Here to See the Profile for I am Ubiquitous   Click Here to Email I am Ubiquitous     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
14) Whats that smells like fish by Blind Boy Fuller?

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bill keitel
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posted 10-22-2002 16:15     Click Here to See the Profile for bill keitel   Click Here to Email bill keitel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a Dead Cat on the Line.

Heap'o stinky songs out there!

bk

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hoodadoo
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posted 10-22-2002 18:48     Click Here to See the Profile for hoodadoo   Click Here to Email hoodadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For #15: the obvious to me was PEG Leg Howell. Peg being a carpenters tool, like a wedge.

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mr mando
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16) Who learned to play guitar from Joe Pat Dean and probably recorded under the pseudonym of "Sluefoot Joe"?
17) Who learned his greatest hit from his piano teacher Lee Green?

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posted 10-23-2002 16:13     Click Here to See the Profile for hoodadoo   Click Here to Email hoodadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay Adrian, you made me do my homework for # 15, Richard "Hacksaw" Harney.

Oh Mr Mando, are you adding coal to the fire...

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Adrian Freed
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posted 10-23-2002 16:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Richard "Hacksaw" Harney was who I had in mind.

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Adrian Freed
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posted 10-23-2002 18:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A common, modern use of the word "carpenter" suggests a woodworker but older interpretations (and my experience of carpenters) is that the older defiinition (aligned with biblical use) is "an artificer in stone, iron and copper as well as in wood",.

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Adrian Freed
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posted 10-23-2002 18:20     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question #18 Who taught Lee Green his "Vicksburg Blues"? He later called it 44 Blues. Was this the basis for Skip James' 22-20?

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posted 10-23-2002 19:41     Click Here to See the Profile for hoodadoo   Click Here to Email hoodadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
# 18: Little Brother Montgomery

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mr mando
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posted 10-23-2002 22:20     Click Here to See the Profile for mr mando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
# 16 Ed Bell is right.
# 17 up to the song title 44 Blues right, but Green didn't teach Skippy, at least I didn't have it in mind.

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Adrian Freed
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posted 10-24-2002 11:28     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am having trouble nailing this one. There were a lot of 44 blues recorded in the same period:

Roosevelt Sykes, "44" Blues, (OKey, 1929?), Document DOCD-5116.
2. Lee Green, Number Forty-Four Blues, (Vocalion, 1929?), Document DOCD-5187.
3. James Wiggins, Forty-Four Blues, (Paramount, 1929?), Document DOCD-5103.
4. Roosevelt Sykes, Kelly's 44 Blues, (Victor, 1930?), Document DOCD-5117.
5. Little Brother Montgomery, Vicksburg Blues, (Paramount, 1930?), Document DOCD-5109.
6. Lee Green, Train Number Forty-Four, (Vocalion, 1930?), Document DOCD-5188.
7. Lee Green, 44 Blues, (Decca, 1934?), Document DOCD-5188.
8. Little Brother Montgomery, Vicksburg Blues No.2, (Bluebird, 1935?), Document DOCD-5109.
9. Little Brother Montgomery, Vicksburg Blues Part 3, (Bluebird, 1936?), Document DOCD-5109.
10. Monkey Joe, New York Central, (Vocalion, 1938?), Document DOCD-5412.
11. Big Maceo, Maceo's 32-20, (Bluebird, 1945?), RCA 07863 66716-2.
12. Otis Spann, S.P. Blues, (Vanguard, 1965?).

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Adrian Freed
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posted 10-24-2002 11:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So which of those 44 blues is about a gun and which is about a train? Which do you suppose Skip James was asked to base a song on?

"Mr. Laibly, the manager of that recordin'...ask me,'Skip, the 44 Blues is out...havin' a fast sale. Do you think you could compose us a blues about a gun that would kinda come up to that requirement? Make a pretty fast sale?
"I said:'I don't know, how about .38 Special ?'
"'No, I got that.'
"I say: 'Well, how 'bout 44 .40?'
"'I got that already...'
"He say: 'How about 22-20?"'

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mr mando
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posted 10-24-2002 21:16     Click Here to See the Profile for mr mando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking of Roosevelt Sykes. "44 Blues" was his greatest hit.

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Adrian Freed
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posted 10-26-2002 10:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is reported that Little Brother Montgomery had a nervous breakdown during a performance of Vicksburg Blues, playing it for hours and hours refusing to stop until he was eventually dragged off to a mental institution.

Incidentally, Skip James did watch him play.

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posted 10-26-2002 10:42     Click Here to See the Profile for hoodadoo   Click Here to Email hoodadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

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Tom Austin
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posted 10-26-2002 11:24     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Austin   Click Here to Email Tom Austin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for the Little Brother story, Adrian. Gives new resonance to Woody Mann's song on Heading Uptown. (it's called Vicksburg Blues or Little Brother, I forget.)

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posted 10-26-2002 15:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I realize I should mention my source of that story was Stephan Calt's Skip James book which is not without its flaws...
For example he says of John Cephas:

"As a black musician in a field where guitarists beneath the age of 50 were invariably white, Cephas was an anomoly, as well as a pedestrian player whose career only bloomed once the 1960's generation of blues singers died off".

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posted 10-26-2002 17:56     Click Here to See the Profile for hoodadoo   Click Here to Email hoodadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A couple of books I had to delve into were "The Blues Who's Who", "Blues From the Delta", "The Blues Makers", "Big Road Blues", and "The Land Where the Blues Began".

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Adrian Freed
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posted 04-08-2007 23:38     Click Here to See the Profile for Adrian Freed   Click Here to Email Adrian Freed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just added this pre-war blues quiz to BluesAintBad.com.

Any experts out there want to challenge us with a postwar blues quiz?

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