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Jersey City unregistered |
posted 10-30-2002 10:47
 
Can anybody recommend a simple, functional device to record chord changes, bass lines etc... to play along with? Something that works for music, but I am not interested in setting up a recording studio.
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drDAve Member Posts: 739 From: Lake Oswego Registered: Sep 2000 |
posted 10-30-2002 11:30
 
Minidiscs-great sound, infinately rewriteable media (almost), portable, relatevely cheap. I just finished recording a very boring 5 minutes of II-V-I changes onto mine to play back and work on improvising against. Also perfect for recording workshops or concerts. Check out www.minidisco.com or your local humongo stereo chain store-be sure to spring for a decent mic. IP: Logged |
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drDAve Member Posts: 739 From: Lake Oswego Registered: Sep 2000 |
posted 10-30-2002 11:30
Minidiscs-great sound, infinately rewriteable media (almost), portable, relatevely cheap. I just finished recording a very boring 5 minutes of II-V-I changes onto mine to play back and work on improvising against. Also perfect for recording workshops or concerts. Check out www.minidisco.com or your local humongo stereo chain store-be sure to spring for a decent mic. IP: Logged |
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BluYanqui Member Posts: 737 From: Manchester,NH. Registered: Sep 2002 |
posted 10-30-2002 12:22
((((shudder))))....i just had the weirdest sense of deja vu.... IP: Logged |
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crossrdblue Member  Posts: 1078 From: Denver, CO Registered: Feb 2001 |
posted 10-30-2002 13:20
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Adrian Freed Member  Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
posted 10-30-2002 13:21
After years of excellent service my minidisc recorder died (probably due to wear and tear I caused). I am researching alternatives. I believe I will probably end up with an mp3 player that records like the new Creative Labs jukeboxes, e.g. Zen. The nice thing about these is that you can change the playback rate without changing pitch. Anyone tried this solution yet? IP: Logged |
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drDAve Member Posts: 739 From: Lake Oswego Registered: Sep 2000 |
posted 10-30-2002 22:47
Damn you Adrian! Just when I think it's safe to log on, I find a new thing I need to buy. An MP3 recorder would be a perfect solution to the present topic, as well as a much easier vehicle for recording then burning discs. I can record live on my minidisc, then load it to the computer, and burn a disc, but it is slow and there is sound degredation since the transfer from minidisc to computer is not digital. Keep us posted on these devices. IP: Logged |
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hoodadoo Member Posts: 2011 From: Westport, Ct., Registered: Mar 2001 |
posted 10-31-2002 02:46
I recently bought a Hardon/Karman CDR 2 Recorder, and I can hook in my mini disc player and digitally record directly onto cd. No loss of sound quality. IP: Logged |
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Finn Bjerke Member  Posts: 2614 From: www.finnbjerke.dk Registered: Apr 2000 |
posted 10-31-2002 04:11
I can compare recordings on a Sony Minidisc and a creative mp3 jukebox old version 6 mb since I have acces to both. I´ll inform you about the results. For you experienced Minidisc user I have some questions: 1) Can any of the Minidiscs transfer data to a PC digitally or is that not an option? Is re-recording needed for that purpose ? [This message has been edited by Finn Bjerke (edited October 31, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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Peter Williams unregistered |
posted 10-31-2002 05:23
I use a program called Tabledit. I can program in any tune I want and then practice along with it - vary the tempo, capo up, alter tuning, etc...... Quite handy. All you need is a sound card on your computer. I have no affiliation..... IP: Logged |
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crossrdblue Member Posts: 1078 From: Denver, CO Registered: Feb 2001 |
posted 10-31-2002 09:25
Finn: My Sony MD came with an optical fiber chord for downloading MP3 off the I-net. I also have a Sony VAIO desktop computer. I am supposed to be able to transfer from MD to the Sony desktop via digital/optical. However, I have not yet figured out how to do it, so I just record analog. When I bought mine two years ago I did lots of research and decided on the newest Sony MD. However, there may now be better products. For a microphone I went to the sony web site "products" and searched microphones. They had a small condenser mic made especially for use with the MD. It was a little over $100. I got that and it has been perfect. The quality is very high and I have used it to record in the manner you mention with very high quality - especially lessons and seminars. However, the quality is so good I also use it to record demo CD's. IP: Logged |
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Jersey City unregistered |
posted 10-31-2002 09:36
Thank you all for your excellent advise. Now I am confused, but at least I know where to start looking. JC IP: Logged |
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Jersey City unregistered |
posted 10-31-2002 09:51
By the way, what is MDLP? JC IP: Logged |
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Finn Bjerke Member Posts: 2614 From: www.finnbjerke.dk Registered: Apr 2000 |
posted 10-31-2002 10:35
MDLP ? let me guess Mini Disk Long Play ? One disk can record in: Sharp MD´s have bass boosting which some people like and some people don´t. Sony´s are a bit more expensive than others. Thanx for linx and good info. I´ll look for a used MD when i get the time (meaning money) IP: Logged |
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Adrian Freed Member Posts: 2360 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2000 |
posted 10-31-2002 16:48
In terms of quality, should mention that some of these mp3 players that record have a mode where you can record without encoding. Since they often have large hard drives (5G-20G) you can in theory achieve higher quality recording than Minidisc. The catch? They can be more expensive, mechanical failure will result in loss of everything (not just a single disc) and for some reason they dont seem to have microphone inputs so you have to carry around a separate box. IP: Logged |
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MikeT unregistered |
posted 10-31-2002 17:07
Absolutely, MiniDiskis the best. My favorite feature is the ability to mark the beginning and end of a phrase, or passage, and then put it on repeat to play over and over (and over again). At some point, usually after I've fallen asleep listening to the phrase repeating, I get the feel for the rhythm, and then notes seem to fall into place. Then it's on to the next phrase. Or I'll put it onto my computer (via USB) then onto a CD for play in my car. I've used Sony MD's, bounced them around the country, and on long bike rides, and have not had a problem. The new ones will record up to 5 hrs on one disk, without noticable distortion. Get a good Mic. The $100 one Brad mentions is the best I've seen/heard from Sony. Good Luck IP: Logged |
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hoodadoo Member Posts: 2011 From: Westport, Ct., Registered: Mar 2001 |
posted 10-31-2002 17:35
Hi, I have a SONY MZ-R70 mini disc recorder. I bought it this past summer, and used it to record my classes at IGS. It records on standard 74 min, and 80 min discs. It has a feature that also allows me to record in mono and it doubles the recording time. It comes with a mega bass feature, that can be turned on or off. And a whole lot of other features, and capabilities. It has a PC link cable, and can be connected directly to a computer. I haven't really experimented with that aspect yet. I presently have it hooked up to my stereo, and can play it through the system. I had also bought a Sony mic for it, probably the model mentioned in the other posts. It has a directional, and unidirectional switch, and is very receptive. I've just begun to record little "diddies" I've been playing on the guitar. It is a great investment, and valuable asset to recording. Very cool, very portable, and I am totally pleased with it. For whatever my opinion is worth, I highly recommend them. This little Sony unit is a powerful tool. IP: Logged |
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