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Bill Schmidt Member Posts: 80 From: Rincón, Puerto Rico Registered: Feb 2002 |
Howdy all, Just a word of warning. Flying out of SFO today, everyone, I mean EVERYONE, with carry-on items longer that 22" in any dimension were forced to check the items as baggage. This included guitars, bagpipes, and even my frickin' 50 yr old Gibson A model mandolin! FFA regs mandate a $1000 fine for airlines who look the other way (according to the United folks anyway). Needless to say, there were some upset folks, although the husband of the lady bagpiper took it pretty well...... Bill IP: Logged |
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mondo Member Posts: 880 From: Summit, NJ Registered: Aug 2002 |
Anyone else running into this? Planning to bring my taylor travel guitar on a trip shortly... IP: Logged |
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John B Member Posts: 1387 From: Registered: May 2000 |
Geez, that includes Martin Backpackers and even the Sweet Pea travel mandolin! Both of which come with gig bags only... Bill, which airline? I flew last week on American out of Kansas City on my way back to the Bay area, and another person got on with his full-size electric guitar (on American). IP: Logged |
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cmdrpiffle Member Posts: 269 From: santa cruz Kalifornia Registered: Dec 2002 |
Greeting everyone. At last a subject I know inside and out. first the rules: Best scenerio for 'travel' sized guitars, pack em in a backpack or other nondescript cover. Airline employees often view guitars in general. That is, they are too big to fit on board the passenger cabin. If you have a say, Baby Taylor, IT WILL fit in any overhead bin for a Boeing 737 and larger. The one exception is the Boeing 747 model 200 and 300. Those aircraft use 2/3 sized bins, but have more of them. Still most travel guitars wont fit in those 2 aircraft. General tips. If you travel, slack all of the strings. Its not the pressure difference, but the banging around on a high strung insturment that could cause damage. And lastly, everyone hears only the horror stories, not the many thousands of guitars that make it safely every single day. Damage really is the exception. Also, you can ask the airlines about suit racks. A lot of airplanes have a s pace in the front galley specifically for passengers garmet bags. Usually a space about 10 inches wide in the flight attendants area. Many airlines will let you stow a guitar case upright in this area, just ask. Mike IP: Logged |
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jshines Member Posts: 40 From: san francisco Registered: Feb 2002 |
No problems with my baby taylor recently on America West and Continental. It helps to not be dragging on a lot of other carry-on stuff (priorities!). Smiling and wearing nice clothes never hurts, either. IP: Logged |
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Bill Schmidt Member Posts: 80 From: Rincón, Puerto Rico Registered: Feb 2002 |
Hi guys, This was a United flight, my return flight to San Diego. On the way up (last Friday), I had no problems. We're talking about a mandolin here, and a fairly short one at that! This was not a hassle with the ticket agent as I had e-ticketed and have traveled many times with carry-on guitars and mandos. This was at the beginning of the security check point line, where the signs detailing carry-ons are (with the little box showing acceptable dimensions -22x19"). NO ONE was allowed past with ANYTHING longer than 22". The options as outlined to me by the United manager were: 1.check it as baggage 2.buy a ticket for it (if the plane wasn't full and the item would fit, i.e., no bikes) 3.see #1 or #2 United will insure guitars, etc., if they are As I say, take this as you will. I have traveled many times with instruments on planes. I even switched to taking the mandolin after 9-11 just to be on the safe side. FAA regs mandate a 22" maximum, so be prepared to check it if you take it. Happy trails, IP: Logged |
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Tom Austin Member Posts: 3404 From: Occidental, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 |
At last a subject I know inside and out. >>> commander, I am duly impressed with your mastery of airline interior detail. Might you possibly have employment experience in the commercial aviation industry? (I do. Ten years doing inflight entertainment and mounting stuff in, on, near those baggage bins. You really do need to be hip to the difference between the 747-300 and -200 and -400 and the 767ER and so forth.) IP: Logged |
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brewbird Member Posts: 103 From: San Jose, CA USA Registered: Jan 2001 |
I took my little Fender travel guitar with me on trip to D.C. and New England last month. Though I was searched on every leg of the trip, no one said anything about the guitar as a carryon. I was flying Southwest and the guitar is 34 inches long. This is getting ridiculous. I can remember years ago when I would carry my dreadnaught on and they would just stick it in the closet for me. I can't believe that a guitar, mandolin, or whatever can be more of a danger than some of the rolling suitcase that I have seen people drag aboard all the time. Jim IP: Logged |
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jshines Member Posts: 40 From: san francisco Registered: Feb 2002 |
I'm resuscitating this thread to update my prior positive comment on carrying on guitars on America West. On 2 recent A.W. flights I was not allowed to store overhead my Baby Taylor, even though she is cute, small and fits easily overhead. Maybe if I were cute or small it would have been different, but at least I was polite. The only answer I got was: "change in policy." After several recent flights with them, I conclude that you can get it by the ticket desk and the boarding gate, but the flight attendants may well question it if they are in a bad mood. IP: Logged |
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Dutch unregistered |
Check this one: http://www.local1000.com/carryon.html It tells me, that musical instruments always should be allowed as carry-ons. Otherwise it would be an effective way to prevent any foreign musicians from playing in the USA IP: Logged |
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billw Member Posts: 17 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: Mar 2003 |
I'd like to hear lots of people reporting that this document is persuasive and, yes, showing it did result in being able to carry on a guitar or whatever. But I'm skeptical. The term "musical instrument" needs definition - guitars? flutes? grand pianos? And I expect the last word remains with the boarding personnel about what gets carried on and what doesn't. IP: Logged |
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Wally unregistered |
I saw that article linked on another site...was going to link to it in this thread but someone beat me to it. I too am skeptical, as it doesn't sound like this policy is being honored (assuming it's legit). I hope it does become standard policy, so other guys like me can travel hassle-free with their cheap guitars....and because I have read some real horror stories about professional musicians having their ancient, extremely costly classical instruments "violated" by ignorant airline/airport personnel. I am currently stationed in Italy, and when I flew over from the states (before 9/11) I carried two guitars with me - a baby taylor which I was allowed to take aboard as a "carry-on", and a Seagull Grand which travelled in the luggage compartment - in it's case, well padded, inside of a well padded cardboard box (it made it fine). The rest of my instruments travelled with my personal property/household goods. I plan to carry more guitars with me when I return, but I am concerned that I will not be allowed to carry any as carry-ons, and I am also afraid that they won't like the "guitar in hardshell case inside of a cardboard box" method that I used either. IP: Logged |
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