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Rodolfo Cucculelli
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From: Italy
Registered: Oct 2004
posted 10-20-2004 01:44     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodolfo Cucculelli   Click Here to Email Rodolfo Cucculelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Sirs:
You can see my last 11-strings Alto Guitar (Alt Gitarra) Photo: http://it.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rcucculelli/detail?.dir=7532&.dnm=2aaa.jpg&.src=ph
The 11-strings Alto Guitar (Alt Gitarr, Altgitarren) was first designed by the Swedish luthier and acoustic researcher Georg Bolin and his friend the Swedish lutenist-guitar player Per - Olof Johnson. They developed a new instrument with a more short neck (like the Requinto in "g") but with the (from the trebbles)
1st to 7th strings with the same lenght, and the aditional basses with different and more longer lenght. The 1st string is tuned "g" and its lenght stopped at the 3rd fret.
11-Strings Alto Guitar, (Alt Gitarr) Intonation, (from 1st to 11th strings): g1-d1-a-f-c-G-F-E#-D-C-B.
With this intonation you can play lute music direct from the tablature.
There are others possible tuning developed by different players who tunes the aditional bass strings to the key.
Inspired in the Goran Sollscher Alto Baroque Guitar performing of the Bach's lute music and with invaluable information I could find (By the '80) in Gendai Guitar Magazine I built this instrument but with some modifications to the original Bolin's design:
-a little more smaller soundbox.
-a more reduced string lenght.
-a 12th fret-neck junction with the body.
-a rather different pegbox and cut-away.
My first 11-string Alto Guitar: http://rodolfocucculelli.8m.com/html_docs/ing/galerias/galeria04.html
The woods and details of construction:
Scale lenght: 1st to 7th string: 55,05 cm.
Overall lenght of the alt gitarr: 92 cm.
"Plantilla": R. Cucculelli.
Top: Alerce Patagonico (Fitzroya Cupressoides), Patagonic Larch.
ALTO GUITAR SIDES: http://it.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rcucculelli/detail?.dir=7532&.dnm=f400.jpg&.src=ph
http://it.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rcucculelli/detail?.dir=7532&.dnm=c175.jpg&.src=ph
Alto Guitar Cut Away: http://it.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rcucculelli/detail?.dir=7532&.dnm=1c3a.jpg&.src=ph
Alt Gitarr Rosette, Bridge: http://it.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rcucculelli/detail?.dir=7532&.dnm=c1b4.jpg&.src=ph
The rosette is oval, handmade, with mother of pearl figures inlaid in a black ebony mastic.
Soundbox measures, lenght: 41,3 cm.
upper bout: 25,7 cm.
waist: 21 cm.
lower bout: 35 cm.
soundboard depht: 98 mm, 105 mm.
Bridge: Wenge (Milletia Laurentii)
Strings sapacing 1st to 11st string: 11,6 cm.
Saddle: Bone.
Cut away: Broad, considering the size of the guitar, to let a free access to the highest notes of the fingerboard.
Neck junction with the sides: 12th fret.
Back and sides: Indian Rosewood (Dalbergia Latifolia), bookmatched, with a center strip of American Oak.
Purfling: American Oak.
http://it.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rcucculelli/detail?.dir=7532&.dnm=4392.jpg&.src=ph
Neck: "Cedro de Oran", (Cedrela Balansae), with two truss rod adjustable from the soundhole, to control the action of the strings.
Neck thickness at nut: 17 mm.
at 11th fret: 19 mm.
Nuts: Bone.
Strings spacing at nut 1st to 11th: 80 mm.
Fingerboard: Brazilian Rosewood (Dalbergia Nigra)
Wide of the fretboard at nut: 89 mm.
at 12th fret: 109 mm.
Frets: 22 frets from the 1st to 7th strings nut. Total fret: 28. Nickel, tall, narrows.
11 stringed guitar, Headstock: http://it.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rcucculelli/detail?.dir=7532&.dnm=459e.jpg&.src=ph
Veneered with Ebony. A very reduced neck to obtain a less heavy neck.
Heel: Own design, strongly inspired from the work of Maestros Joaquin Garcia Fernandez and Juan Morando.
Tuners Schaller, gold.
Varnish: Shellac.
By the moment I do not have a mp3 file of the instrument. But more in advance I'll include it.
I hope you liked the instrument.
If any aditional information is needed, no doubt to ask.
My best regards.
Rodolfo Cucculelli
Via Dante Barbano 20. Cella Monte
(15034), Alessandria. Italia.
0039-3286444321
http://rodolfocucculelli.8m.com
rcucculelli@yahoo.it

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LosBoleros
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From: Pacifica, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 2004
posted 10-20-2004 21:31     Click Here to See the Profile for LosBoleros     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks very nice but I just don't get it. If someone wants that many courses, they should learn the Harp. I mean a chord can only play so many notes. I think that a five note chord would be ridiculous. Now if it was to have say four sets of three or six sets of two or maybe even three sets of four then I could see its purpose. I gues I am putting the ball in your court to defend it. I am interested in your response.
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Jlwctn
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posted 10-20-2004 23:58     Click Here to See the Profile for Jlwctn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you ever heard of Narciso Yepes?

http://www.flamenco-world.com/magazine/yepes.htm

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Narciso+Yepes

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Rodolfo Cucculelli
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posted 10-21-2004 13:04     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodolfo Cucculelli   Click Here to Email Rodolfo Cucculelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goran Sollscher plays lute baroque music in a guitar, may be he is not a lutenist, therefore he plays with the guitar technique in a guitar. If you hear him you may be think in another way.
In Argentine Native music, Maestro Ramo'n Ayala plays native folk music with a 10 strings guitar to express different part of the Argentina: "El Monte": http://www.guitarrasweb.com/ramonayala/curri.htm
Playing 10-strings guitar: http://personales.com/argentina/posadas/RamonAyala/RamonAyalaT.htm
Maestro Yepes choosed 10-strings guitar because the sounds of 6-strings were not sufficient for him, he studied with Anto'n Garci'a Abril (pianist), and he tried to copy the piano in guitar.
http://personal.redestb.es/angel.martin/narciso.htm
I think that it doesn't matter the number of strings, the question is what expressed by the artist.
My best wishes.
Rodolfo Cucculelli


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Originally posted by LosBoleros:
It looks very nice but I just don't get it. If someone wants that many courses, they should learn the Harp. I mean a chord can only play so many notes. I think that a five note chord would be ridiculous. Now if it was to have say four sets of three or six sets of two or maybe even three sets of four then I could see its purpose. I gues I am putting the ball in your court to defend it. I am interested in your response.
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[size=8][color=blue][font=script]Let Passion Guide You![/font][/color][/size]

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Rodolfo Cucculelli
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posted 10-21-2004 13:08     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodolfo Cucculelli   Click Here to Email Rodolfo Cucculelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jlwctn:
Yes I've heard most of his long plays and CD's. I like it very much. I maked my first 10-strings guitar after hearing "La Chacona" of J.S.Bach
My Best regards.
Rodolfo Cucculelli


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Originally posted by Jlwctn:
Have you ever heard of Narciso Yepes?

http://www.flamenco-world.com/magazine/yepes.htm

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Narciso+Yepes


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LosBoleros
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posted 10-21-2004 14:17     Click Here to See the Profile for LosBoleros     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK I guese, I bet some where in the world there is a guy with even more strings. I guese that in my world it would have no place because I am a member of a band and not a solo artist. I only have to play in a certain range and there are other instruments for the higher and lower ranges. as far as playing higher or lower notes all I have to do is change the position of my left hand as opposed to reaching a few inches up or down the fret board. I have played some of your guitars and they are nice instruments so party on. and as always, let passion guide you

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