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marigold28 Member Posts: 317 From: Michigan metro Detroit Registered: Feb 2005 |
Ok all my acoustics have been dreadnaught style. For my last purchase I was on the fence between a dreadnaught and a grand auditorium Taylor. I sided with buying another dreadnaught. From my research I gathered a grand is smaller at waist, possible more suited for being finger picked b/c of smaller size, and less bassy. However I did play a Taylor grand auditorium and thought it kinda kicked some good volume and bass out of it at the store. I kind of went for the dreadnaught b/c I like louder full volume guitars. I was afraid of a wimpy sound. However, what do you guys think of feel as a differene or prefer and why? IP: Logged |
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Ulysses K. Davenport Member Posts: 217 From: Ireland Registered: Sep 2005 |
If you like the Dreadnought sound, that's what you should play. But if you find a Grand Auditorium that sounds nice to you, you might also appreciate its smaller size. Kevin. IP: Logged |
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munsonman Member Posts: 121 From: duluth MN, USA Registered: May 2004 |
I think the smaller ones have something that I like. I have a Tacoma dread and a seagull folk, which is kind of a Grand Concert, maybe a bit smaller. The only way I can describe it is that the folk sounds good on the A through high E strings and the dread sounds best on the 3 bass strings. I think that a good OM or Grand Auditorium might split that difference and be a good all around guitar. IP: Logged |
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Jubilee Valence Member Posts: 1927 From: Casa Grande, Ariz. Registered: Dec 2004 |
........the DREAD, the WHOLE DREAD, and NOTHING BUT THE DREAD!!!.....fer' me anyway!.....Jubi ![]() --
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Veronica Member Posts: 10 From: NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2005 |
I bought a Martin Eric Clapton because I wanted something smaller than the dreadnought I started playing guitar with. I found the smaller size more suited to my size and comfort. It sounds wonderfull but I'm not sure if it's the size or the guitar itself. As I become more experienced playing I now find I can handle the dreadnought and the size and sound are not intimidating. So, to answer your question, I like both. So what's wrong with variety? IP: Logged |
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Easy Rider Member Posts: 233 From: Astoria NY Registered: Aug 2000 |
Dreads are a bit heavy in the bass, while a Grand Auditorium will be more balanced between bass, midrange and treble. My OM, with its longer string scale, also has better projection and more separation of individual notes on different strings, which is ideal for fingerpicking. An OM is more of a solo instrument, while a Dread is more of a rhythm instrument. Dreads were originally designed as rhythm instruments for string bands. This said, a lot depends on the choice of woods and the maker. IP: Logged |
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Jubilee Valence Member Posts: 1927 From: Casa Grande, Ariz. Registered: Dec 2004 |
WHEWWWEEE!!!!---good thing we're all veterans of "Dread", and Martin vs_____, --wars!!!...but, in my experience I've owned 3 dreads, 1 Jumbo, a bunch of nylon & electrics.....I don't believe that a Dreadnaught plays second string to anything...I guess in theory-the big boys were developed for, "then" back-up....but in todays music, with the virtuosos out there, as well as us "pickers" the formerly relegated to backgroung droning ka-chunk! sounding stuff is "!no mas!"...pure lead and artistry work........why do you think they cost SO much & are descibed as having "separation of notes", "clarity in separation of notes", "as fast as you are, clarity........", etc etc etc......WELLLLL DOGGGIEEE!!!! 'Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!! (did I mention I prefer dreads? )--
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Easy Rider Member Posts: 233 From: Astoria NY Registered: Aug 2000 |
Jubilee, your underwear is on too tight! IP: Logged |
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M Stephenson Member Posts: 263 From: Earth Registered: Jul 2005 |
I like the grand auditorium style better than the dread because I find it easier to hold and play classical/finger style music. I have had a few dreads and was never able to play them well. IP: Logged |
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Jubilee Valence Member Posts: 1927 From: Casa Grande, Ariz. Registered: Dec 2004 |
...not me--I don't wear 'em see? --
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ljguitar Member Posts: 615 From: Wyoming Registered: Nov 2004 |
quote: Hi Marigold... I love variety. The three guitars I own and play most are: 1 - Olson Dreadnaught - Rosewood/Cedar 12 yrs old and wonderful for either fingerstyle or strumming - big sound Having different sounding guitars has helped me to learn and write & play in different styles. They really assisted in keeping the sound fresh and my skills growing. Larry J
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Kirk Rogers Member Posts: 251 From: Pasadena, Ca USA Registered: Mar 2005 |
It all depends on the music you play. The dred is the more popular guitar. Maybe it was the Taylort sound that caught your ear. It is great sounding guitar! Guitar Ideas IP: Logged |
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marigold28 Member Posts: 317 From: Michigan metro Detroit Registered: Feb 2005 |
yes and when you buy your first couple guitars you odn't always have the exact sound in mind you want yet. I would like to have both kinds of guitars actually. I do love the dread though. I can't ever ever see myself in a jumbo since I am 5 foot tall and just under 110 lbs. hahaha. IP: Logged |
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munsonman Member Posts: 121 From: duluth MN, USA Registered: May 2004 |
I bought my tacoma dred because Eric Clapton and Dave Mattews both played that shape of guitar, and the tacoma was the best I could find in my price range. I wanted it to be the last guitar I would need for a long time. At the time I didn't even know what the shapes where called, I just knew that "THAT" was what I needed. Probably could play the chords to 4 songs at the time. Also, the first time I saw an Eric Clapton model martin, I stared at it for a loong time. IP: Logged |
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Jubilee Valence Member Posts: 1927 From: Casa Grande, Ariz. Registered: Dec 2004 |
Well marigold28, for better or worser--the pure unaldulterated truth--"My" personal favorite pickers Steve Stills and Steve Miller both play "triple 0s"--go figure--got nuthin' ta' do with me tho'!---also C.F.Martin debuted the "Eric Clapton Model" in '95 the 00042EC--his "favorite guitar of choice was apparently also a 000! "Martin's" page has THE encyclopedia version of shapes etc! http://www.martinguitar.com/guitars/choosing/model.php if you click to the pge shapes & sizes under "Choosing your Martin"--you'll get the perfect picture!--This one in the link is "All Models"--Hasta!--Jubi --
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Slider Member ![]() Posts: 1651 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Sep 2002 |
Marigold - you NEED at least one of each.... minimum!
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marigold28 Member Posts: 317 From: Michigan metro Detroit Registered: Feb 2005 |
I honestly love the Taylor but will probably buy a Martin next time just to mix it up a little bit. I clicked on the link and I can see the 000 models do look a bit smaller than the D models(I am not as familiar with Martins as I am Taylors since I play a Taylor and researched them beforehand a lot)I have to play them all first...... IP: Logged |
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lakeplacidblue Member Posts: 794 From: Perth - WA- Australia Registered: Jan 2003 |
hi Marigold - good to see all around posting again. I get confused with all these names - Grand auditorium etc I've never been into Jumbo size guitars personally. the 612 doesn't really cut a 'gig' where I'm strummng etc as well as fingerpicking - The 514 wins hands down for vol and tone. I put some of it down to the fact my 612 is all maple body - which is very brite sounding - very balanced - but lacking a rich bottom end. As much as i love my 612 - i wish I'd got a 712 0r 912 - I think they would be all round warmer sounding guitars. Oh well !! Not much help to you - I guess - just a rave from me ! I love my Taylors !! Aaron IP: Logged |
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Big Mike Simpson Member Posts: 979 From: Registered: May 2003 |
You will get lots of opinions but you must decide what you like, everyone can only tell you what they like. My acoustic preference is a Gibson J45... it has that "thump" for bass lines when fingerpicking. You can hear my 1949 J45 on our website Blind Dog Blues Band and judge the sound for yourself. I own a 62 J45, a 49 J45 and a 38 L-00, the smaller bodied L-00 is one sweet sounding guitar too. I do not like the "Taylor sound" or the "Martin sound" I have played some Larivee's that sounded pretty good but I tend to like the Gibson sound.... Ovations don't even count... While perhaps not the prettiest of woods I prefer the sound of a guitar with mahogany back and sides. After all... you gonna play it or look at it? Many guitar players fall into the "pretty wood trap" and spend more for a guitar that does not sound any better if as good as a less fancy piece of wood. Many newer guitars are overbraced or the tops are too thick. There are lots of boutique makers building nice guitars and many draw from vintage specifications. You must decide... Go where there are several that you are considering and play them blindfolded (have someone hand them to you) and have someone else play them in front of you while you are blindfolded and choose the one that inspires you to play most. --
Blind Dog Blues Band [This message has been edited by Big Mike Simpson (edited 10-07-2005).] IP: Logged |
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jacksmart Member Posts: 302 From: Williamson, WV, USA Registered: Oct 2004 |
I agree with some previous comments- "Let your ear decide what you like." I have played several guitars from the same manufacturer same models that had different tone. Therefore, it is difficult to say that all are equal- they are not. Jack IP: Logged |
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marigold28 Member Posts: 317 From: Michigan metro Detroit Registered: Feb 2005 |
your ear but also feel as well for your style. a smaller guitar can be more comfortable. From what I gather Taylor guitars ending in a 14 are considered grand Auditorium style. ie 214 314 and so on(the first number representing the quality of wood and more expensive the higher the number) The Taylor guitars ending in a 10 are dreads (210 310 and so on) yes it is confusing schooling yourself on all the specifications of all the brands. I don't need to know everything. I don't sell guitars. so as long as I can tune, change strings and play I am content. I can play barre chords now too which is a major milestone in my playing. It was not about brute stength as I have little of that but the proper positioning and angle of not only my fingers but my whole arm. For instance I noticed when I play an f barre chord my elbow comes in toward my body so I do that automatically now when going to the f. I hear about these guys on here cranking off thier arms to play a barre chord. I never do that. It just took time. IP: Logged |
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