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Mark McDonald Member Posts: 69 From: Santa Rosa, CA. U.S.A. Registered: Sep 2004 |
posted 07-24-2006 08:49
   
http://www.rjguitar.com/index.html Mark IP: Logged |
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NotRevGDavis Member Posts: 204 From: Registered: May 2004 |
posted 07-24-2006 08:55
I'll stick with the Kalamazoo theory. OT Hey Mark 6 more days! IP: Logged |
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Mark McDonald Member Posts: 69 From: Santa Rosa, CA. U.S.A. Registered: Sep 2004 |
posted 07-24-2006 09:11
You got that right. With this heat it will be a relief to hit the Pacific Northwest. I think that "official" RJ guitar would make a nice addition to your vintage collection. You could bring it to PT. You could just check it in the original chipboard case. See you soon Rev. Mark IP: Logged |
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tricky Member Posts: 59 From: UK Registered: Feb 2006 |
posted 07-24-2006 10:14
quote: I wonder if it comes pre-tuned to The Devil Tuning :P IP: Logged |
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phil_doleman Member Posts: 6 From: Derbyshire, UK Registered: Jul 2006 |
posted 07-24-2006 10:26
Ok, lets just say it is the guitar in the photo (no way of proving it, but lets just say it is). Would it make a museum piece? Maybe, in a 'Rock & Roll hall of fame" sort of way. Would anyone who wanted to actually play it be able to afford it? Doubtful. If they could, and did play it, would they sound like Johnson (even with an exact reproduction of his recording setup). No. Even putting all that aside, is there any evidence that this guitar was anything more than a prop for the photo? There are loads of theories about what he played - I've heard suggestions about him playing all sorts of guitars, including Nationals! Lots of the other stuff they sell has a pretty much verifiable background - signed records, letters on traceable notepaper, but I don't think this guitar can never be anything more than 'believed to be Robert Johnson's'. Still, it's a nice guitar... IP: Logged |
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phil_doleman Member Posts: 6 From: Derbyshire, UK Registered: Jul 2006 |
posted 07-24-2006 10:28
..and I suppose I could always sell my soul to the devil to buy it. Except I reckon it'll be selling for more than I'd get for my soul. IP: Logged |
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Bob Brozman Member Posts: 1700 From: Brozmanistan, Earth Registered: Nov 1999 |
posted 07-24-2006 10:32
Some guys really have nerve! That elaborate website, the "proof", claims about light covering every inconsistency, whew! Yet people dream of finding such a thing........(cue music: When you wish upon a star)...................................
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DiegoMoon Member Posts: 206 From: New Jersey Registered: Feb 2006 |
posted 07-24-2006 10:56
I just wanted to add that I have the strings off the guitar that Robert Johnson was playing in that photo. They look identical. I've been able to verify they are the originals from the photos using the WAG method. They are a little rusty and crusty but if you're looking for the true RJ sound you'll want them. I'm selling them at the bargain price of $150,000.00 plus shipping. New Jersey residents will have to pay the 7% tax. With some luck you could possibly recover some of Robert Johnson's DNA off the strings. Think what that would be worth. IP: Logged |
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Reson8r Member Posts: 167 From: Kau,Hawaii Registered: Aug 2004 |
posted 07-24-2006 16:54
What nerve, indeed! Anybody who knows anything knows that the one in Robert J photo is a 1928 model, distinguisable by the extra pin located below the bridge pins. I have the same guitar, with lots of wear on it. Maybe I should ask $6,00 for mine?  A load of bollocks...... IP: Logged |
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Big Mike Simpson Member  Posts: 869 From: Registered: May 2003 |
posted 07-24-2006 22:48
Provenance... Hell... I wouldn't give RJ himself 6 Million if he was still alive, STILL playin' the guitar and if he taught me the 28 songs... The sad part is some fool will probably pay that for it. A comparison to a poor quality picture is a rediculous basis for provenance with no other supporting lineage or evidence. IP: Logged |
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gmann Member Posts: 86 From: Okinawa Registered: Apr 2006 |
posted 07-25-2006 02:31
Come on guys, we should all go in on it, you know, just in case, I got a hundred... IP: Logged |
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tricky Member Posts: 59 From: UK Registered: Feb 2006 |
posted 07-25-2006 08:33
quote: It even got a mention in The Times over here! IP: Logged |
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scampbell Member Posts: 1156 From: portland, oregon Registered: Nov 1999 |
posted 07-25-2006 14:28
Incredibly obvious fraud. It has the "The Gibson" logo on the head stock IP: Logged |
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Knucklehead Member Posts: 186 From: Carefree, AZ, USA Registered: Dec 2003 |
posted 07-25-2006 14:47
I'm curious... where did they turn this up, did it belong to his family? Wasn't there mention of some other RJ guitar on this forum that a poster had in his possesion? After looking at the pics in that site, I don't see anything convincing linking that guitar for sale and the one in the picture, other than it's the same model and wishful thinking on the part of the seller. There's probably more of a chance that my Style 3 was the instrument Peetie W. had in his PR pic than this being RJ's guitar, yeah right.. oh well well..... IP: Logged |
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Brentertainment Member Posts: 399 From: Vancouver. B.C. Canada Registered: Apr 2005 |
posted 07-25-2006 22:31
didn't RJ's guitar have a 7th string held on with a nail on the neck? Or did I imagine reading that? IP: Logged |
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georgeguitar Member Posts: 63 From: somewhere (o.t.r.) Registered: Jul 2006 |
posted 07-26-2006 04:31
RJ's very own!!? wonderful!! what if i want 2 of them ? IP: Logged |
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Gerald Ross Member Posts: 129 From: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Registered: Sep 2004 |
posted 07-26-2006 05:36
SOLD!! It's heading to my house as we speak. It'll be on display right next to William Shatner's kidney stone and the Virgin Mary grilled cheese sandwich. --
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gerald Ross Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King of the Hawaiian Steel Guitar Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association IP: Logged |
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Bob Brozman Member Posts: 1700 From: Brozmanistan, Earth Registered: Nov 1999 |
posted 07-26-2006 07:03
I just can't believe this is being taken seriously by the press. as mentioned above, it is wishful thinking and a LOT of nerve! IP: Logged |
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guitarnowski Member Posts: 259 From: Near the Big Bend of the Illinois River Registered: May 2005 |
posted 07-26-2006 07:43
Maybe they will consider trading for my bible autographed by Jesus! I got it from E-bay too! IP: Logged |
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BlueGene Member Posts: 56 From: Virginia Beach, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2005 |
posted 07-26-2006 09:07
The guy does not return emails either. I asked to see the guitar and try out my new "devil tuning" on it but he's not responding. I told him I have the 6 mil so it must be that he doesn't believe I have the "devil tuning." It is a beautiful guitar but I'm waiting to buy RJ's Kalamazoo as soon as it hits the market. IP: Logged |
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Lonesome Sheik Member Posts: 97 From: France Registered: Apr 2006 |
posted 07-26-2006 09:30
I hope I'll get the Steson & the suit for a good deal! IP: Logged |
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mondo Member Posts: 777 From: Summit, NJ Registered: Aug 2002 |
posted 07-26-2006 09:44
I don't believe the RJ thing either but I think I'm gonna buy that 1938 Amelia Earhardt autograph that they are offering. IP: Logged |
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georgeguitar Member Posts: 63 From: somewhere (o.t.r.) Registered: Jul 2006 |
posted 07-30-2006 15:19
seriously i like the L1 or even L2 so much , both with floating or fixed bridge.I was just wondering how many are there that could match the picture and why nobody pops out with them. With MANY of them so just to put an end to this swindle... IP: Logged |
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Andy Volk Member Posts: 8 From: Needham, MA USA Registered: Dec 2005 |
posted 07-30-2006 16:46
You can fool some of the people some of the time .... Once guitars turned the metaphysical corner as a serious revenue-generating investment all kinds of creeps came out of the woodwork. Scott Chinery's buying spree dis a lot of good but also helped inflate prices. Mandolin Brothers Teardrop D'Angelico, the wild inflation of Les Paul's .... all have contributed to all kinds of scams and near scams to try to turn guitasrs into piles of cash. As for these sellers, this same company is advertising the album John Lennon signed for Mark Chapman just before he was killed and brags about it having Chapman's fingerprints and letters from the DA. Ugh! So far beyind bad taste I can't even comment further. IP: Logged |
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Bob Brozman Member Posts: 1700 From: Brozmanistan, Earth Registered: Nov 1999 |
posted 07-30-2006 17:01
Agreed 100% Andy! IP: Logged |
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pj67 New Member Posts: 2 From: alpharetta, GA USA Registered: Jul 2006 |
posted 07-30-2006 18:52
I have it on the greatest authority that this is the only actual studio photo of Robert Johnson and his original guitar IP: Logged |
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Knucklehead Member Posts: 186 From: Carefree, AZ, USA Registered: Dec 2003 |
posted 07-30-2006 20:14
Here's an exerpt on some information that was posted on the Les Paul Forum on the individual, Gary Zimet and company, Moments in Time, selling the $6M RJ guitar. Looks like there are quite a few lawsuits involving other items offered for sale. Thanks to LPF's "Bluesjuke" for the links. US Government sues over JFK papers John Lennon LP owner sues Paul McCartney sues over stolen "Sgt Pepper" lyrics Studio owner calls Zimet's "Secret Beatle Sessions" tape "absurd" [This message has been edited by Knucklehead (edited 07-30-2006).] [This message has been edited by Knucklehead (edited 07-30-2006).] [This message has been edited by Knucklehead (edited 07-30-2006).] IP: Logged |
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phil_doleman Member Posts: 6 From: Derbyshire, UK Registered: Jul 2006 |
posted 07-31-2006 01:55
So, this guy sells stolen property, stolen government property, blank tapes that USED to have the beatles on them (but don't say 'beatles' anywhere on them). Then, if he's selling on your behalf he keeps all the money. If you object (like McCartney) then he offers to sell your possessions back to you! ... and he wants 6 million quid for a guitar that could have belonged to pretty much anyone. I'm pretty damn sure that if I tries to pull off even one of these I'd end up in prison. So why the hell isn't this crook? IP: Logged |
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tricky Member Posts: 59 From: UK Registered: Feb 2006 |
posted 07-31-2006 02:44
quote: And here it is: Only $439,000.99.
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georgeguitar Member Posts: 63 From: somewhere (o.t.r.) Registered: Jul 2006 |
posted 07-31-2006 07:23
you meant 439.999.99, didn't you? IP: Logged |
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tricky Member Posts: 59 From: UK Registered: Feb 2006 |
posted 07-31-2006 10:06
quote: Now you're just being silly. IP: Logged |
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