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Brian Alboucq
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posted 04-26-2008 15:47     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian Alboucq   Click Here to Email Brian Alboucq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been trying to play No Regrets. The Billie Holiday version. I just can't figure out the chord progression on my own. I have been trying to but no luck. I think she does it in E flat, it doesn't have to be that way if somebody has some other ideas. If anybody can play this one,,,,, and can give me some help, or maybe send me a website that may have the chord progression, I would really appreciate it.

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TheNewDeal
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posted 04-27-2008 10:13     Click Here to See the Profile for TheNewDeal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great tune....played it with a couple of women vocalists over the years;one of the lesser played Holiday tunes...currnetly in the middle of a busy recording project over the past week....I'll post the changes for you tomorrow night.

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posted 04-27-2008 18:05     Click Here to See the Profile for DeltaBluesDawg   Click Here to Email DeltaBluesDawg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't quite tried to figure it out yet--but a dumb guess to a smart question: Think in terms of a Jazz progression instead of a Blues progression?

I love Billie Holiday too, and want to hear New Deal's definitive answer too. Bet this would sound great on a Tricone!!

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Nina
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posted 04-27-2008 19:07     Click Here to See the Profile for Nina   Click Here to Email Nina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I downloaded it from iTunes and will see if I can sort out the chords tonight. I found the lyrics by Googling.

This is a nice song and I might add it to my repertoire.

OK, I figured it out as best I could and transposed it into C (it was Eb). This is probably not perfect but it's a decent starting place. Would welcome any suggestions for yummy passing chords, etc. Very likely The New Deal has some ideas for it.


No Regrets

Intro:
[C] [Cdim] [Dm7] [G7] [Fm7] [C]

No re[C]grets
Although our [E7]love affair has gone astray
No re[Am7]grets
I know I'll always [C7]care though you're [A7]away
[F]So now our happy [Fm7]romance ended [Am7]sudden[A7]ly
Still in my [D7]heart you'll be [G7]forever mine [G7sus]

No re[C]grets
Because some[E7]body new looks good to you
No re[Am7]grets
Sweetheart no matter [C7]what you say or [A7]do
[F]I know our love will [Fm7]linger
When the [c]other love for[A7]gets
So [F]I say good [G7]bye with no re[C]grets [G7]

No re[C]grets
Because some[E7]body new looks good to you
No re[Am7]grets
Sweetheart no matter [C7]what you say or [A7]do
[F]I know our love will [Fm7]linger
When the [C]other love for[A7]gets
So [F]I say good [G7]bye with no re[C]grets

[This message has been edited by Nina (edited 04-27-2008).]

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Brian Alboucq
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posted 04-28-2008 14:59     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian Alboucq   Click Here to Email Brian Alboucq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nina, thank you very much. Thats a heck of a lot closer than I was getting. Was kind of looking for some jazzy swing chords, but that will have to do unless somebody else has some ideas. Once again thanks.

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Nina
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posted 04-28-2008 15:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Nina   Click Here to Email Nina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome. That's probably the best I can do on short notice. You can always try subbing 6th chords for the majors and see how that works. I do think this is pretty close to what's on the recording. I was hoping someone else could help jazz it up a little bit. Usually I can come up with better more swingy arrangements but this was a little more challenging than others I've worked on...the line about the happy romance ending suddenly was sort of counterintuitive and awkward to me and it still doesn't sound quite right. At least it's a starting point. Thanks for the heads up, this is a good song and I enjoyed noodling around with it.

[This message has been edited by Nina (edited 04-28-2008).]

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posted 04-28-2008 16:47     Click Here to See the Profile for TheNewDeal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"No Regrets"....key of "Eb".....4/4 time

With older tunes,in many styles,the pitch may vary slightly from 440;with this particular track,it sets in between Eb and E...however,the song was recorded in Eb.

In my transcription,I'm going to list the guitar intro on two string sets,using the EXACT same voicings....learn both so you can manipulate either of these common chord move motions to other keys for useage in other tunes.Also,review the mathematical string set formula,I posted, for finding the same exact chord voicing on different strings sets in this old thread:

http://www.guitarseminars.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017293.html

Intro: (hold the Eb and Ebdim.7 chord shapes down while executing the intro guitar arpeggios!)

||Eb=XX5XXX...XXX3XX...XXXX46...Ebdim.7=XX4XXX...XXX5XX...XXXX45...|

|Fm7=XX3544...XXXXX6...XXXXX4...Bb13=XXX133...XXXXX2...XXXXX1...|

|E13=0XXXXX...XX0XXX...XXX1XX...XXXX2X...XXXX2X...XXXX0X...|Eb/G=3X134X...||

OR:

||Eb=X,10,X,X,X,X...XX8XXX...X,X,X,8,11,X...Ebdim.7=X9XXXX...X,X,10,X,X,X...X,X,X,8,10,X...|

|Fm7=X,8,10,8,9,X...X,X,X,X,11,X...XXXX9X...|Bb13=XX678X...XXXX7X...XXXX6X...|

| (play the 3rd line the same as above,with the same E13 and Eb/G voicings).||


The form is a 32 bar "A" section tune, with a 1st and 2nd ending:

From the vocals after the intro rubato chords:

||Eb6=X6554X...| ./. |G7=3X34XX...| ./. |Cm=X3554X...Cmin(maj.7)=X3544X|Cm7=X3534X...C7=X3231X...|

|C9=X3233X...| ./. |Fm=X,8,10,10,9,X...|Bb7=686766...||

(FIRST ENDING): |G7=3X343X...|Cm=X35543...|F7=X8786X...| ./. |Fm7=X8689X...|Bb13=6X678X...||

Back to the top of the "A" section at the vocal entry (Eb6 chord),and play the first ten measures,then take the SECOND ENDING,which is:

(SECOND ENDING): |Eb6=X6554X...|C7=X3535X...|Fm7=X,8,10,8,9,8...|Bb7=686766...|

|Eb6=XX1313...Edim.7=XX2323...|Fm7=XX3544...Bb13=XX6786...|| back to top of "A".

For the last ending,hang on the Eb6 for the final two measures,and then end on an Eb6/9=XX5566...||

Notice the use of the diminished chord of the same root key letter in the intro,and the diminished chord a half step above the root key letter in the second ending turnaround.Revisit
this old thread as well:

http://www.guitarseminars.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017574.html

Good night and good luck.

[This message has been edited by TheNewDeal (edited 04-28-2008).]

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jakeyboy
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TheNewDeal, you are an absolute legend.

When are you finishing that book on chord progressions and voicings you were talking about a while back?

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Nina
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Cool, so I wasn't too far off. Here's what I figured out transposed to the key of Eb:

[Eb] [Ebdim] [Fm7] [Bb7] [Abm7] [Eb]

No re[Eb]grets
Although our [G7]love affair has gone astray
No re[Cm7]grets
I know I'll always [Eb7]care though you're [C7]away
[Ab]So now our happy [Abm7]romance ended [Cm7]sudden[C7]ly
Still in my [F7]heart you'll be [Bb7]forever mine [Bb7sus]

No re[Eb]grets
Because some[G7]body new looks good to you
No re[Cm7]grets
Sweetheart no matter [Eb7]what you say or [C7]do
[Ab]I know our love will [Abm7]linger
When the [c]other love for[C7]gets
So [Ab]I say good [Bb7]bye with no re[Eb]grets [Bb7]

No re[Eb]grets
Because some[G7]body new looks good to you
No re[Cm7]grets
Sweetheart no matter [Eb7]what you say or [C7]do
[Ab]I know our love will [Abm7]linger
When the [Eb]other love for[C7]gets
So [Ab]I say good [Bb7]bye with no re[Eb]grets

[This message has been edited by Nina (edited 04-28-2008).]

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posted 04-28-2008 17:09     Click Here to See the Profile for TheNewDeal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jakeyboy:
TheNewDeal, you are an absolute legend.

When are you finishing that book on chord progressions and voicings you were talking about a while back?


Thank you jb....I've actually finished the chord book you mentioned....I will self publish it,and advertise it in the trades,when financial fortunes abound;unfortunately my first lottery winnings just went into making a solo guitar CD....once I win the next lottery,hopefully soon,the promised book will be out...as always,I'm constantly chasing the great white whale in all these projects,in constant motion of turning negative energy into positive energy...as promised,you'll be the first to know,thanks,

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posted 04-28-2008 17:32     Click Here to See the Profile for TheNewDeal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nina:
Cool, so I wasn't too far off. Here's what I figured out transposed to the key of Eb:

[Eb] [Ebdim] [Fm7] [Bb7] [Abm7] [Eb]

No re[Eb]grets
Although our [G7]love affair has gone astray
No re[Cm7]grets
I know I'll always [Eb7]care though you're [C7]away
[Ab]So now our happy [Abm7]romance ended [Cm7]sudden[C7]ly
Still in my [F7]heart you'll be [Bb7]forever mine [Bb7sus]

No re[Eb]grets
Because some[G7]body new looks good to you
No re[Cm7]grets
Sweetheart no matter [Eb7]what you say or [C7]do
[Ab]I know our love will [Abm7]linger
When the [c]other love for[C7]gets
So [Ab]I say good [Bb7]bye with no re[Eb]grets [Bb7]

No re[Eb]grets
Because some[G7]body new looks good to you
No re[Cm7]grets
Sweetheart no matter [Eb7]what you say or [C7]do
[Ab]I know our love will [Abm7]linger
When the [Eb]other love for[C7]gets
So [Ab]I say good [Bb7]bye with no re[Eb]grets


[This message has been edited by Nina (edited 04-28-2008).]


Nina--No,you weren't far off...good ear and keep at it...hearing the exact chord is a constant challenge and battle...this tune is very tricky...although the chord progression is a common blueprint,the sound of a minor vs. a dominant chord in a few of those measures is really subtle and tricky...e.g.=measures 5,6&7:the move from the Cm to C7 to C9...very tricky,and an unusual cadence for where the chords are changing...the Eb with the g note in the bass in the intro.
The motion in measures 9,10 & 11 as well,hearing the tonality of each chord.

Here's the three biggest factors in transcribing:

1.Get the bass note first.
2.Get the top note of any chord instrument(piano,guitar,string section,horn section).
(now you have the outer notes of the chord).
3.Then play each of the 3 tonalities from the bass note of the chord(major,minor and dominant).
(play each tonality against the recording,hearing which one you think is correct).

Eventually you'll start to hear the extensions of 6th's,9th's,13th's,etc...and then the altered tones(the 5th's and 9th's),but first get the correct tonality matched to the correct chord name.

btw,hearing many of the more difficult chord voicings is simply a matter of repetition...think how easy it is for all of us to hear Em or G...if you heard Gm6/9 or A13(b9) just as many times as you heard Em or G,those chords would be just as easily recognizable to you.


[This message has been edited by TheNewDeal (edited 04-28-2008).]

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Nina
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posted 04-28-2008 17:37     Click Here to See the Profile for Nina   Click Here to Email Nina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, TheNewDeal, no doubt I can learn a lot from you. Thank you very much.

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Brian Alboucq
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Thank you so much!!! I had decided that I was going to try and figure it out without looking on the internet for it, and got eflat and eflat dim and then fell apart. Back to the drawing board with my playing the changes thing. Thought I was getting pretty smart. Great song. Can't wait to go home and give it a whirl

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