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Rick McKeon
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posted 04-28-2008 12:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick McKeon   Click Here to Email Rick McKeon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This question is primarily for those who live outside the US. I have produced an instructional video and am starting to get request from countries other than the US. Here we use NTSC as the video standard, but others use PAL.

So the question is - when shipping abroad does the format have to be PAL or is it common in Europe, Australia, etc. that people have multi-format DVD players?

I believe Homespun produces their videos exclusively in NTSC.

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Andy Volk
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posted 04-28-2008 13:10     Click Here to See the Profile for Andy Volk   Click Here to Email Andy Volk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Generally, the video formats in use are ...

NTSC = North America
PAL =Europe & Australia
Secam = Asia

Here's a complete lists: http://www.koivideos.com/customer_service/video_format.html

Many computers will play NTSC & PAL with no problems but DVD players generally aren't multi-format.

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Paul Norman
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posted 04-28-2008 13:37     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Norman   Click Here to Email Paul Norman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Andy said... I have no problems recording or reading NTSC or PAL on my Mac. If I want to change the format for someone no so blessed, Toast (CD Creator on PCs) will create a new DVD with the desired compression/format.

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niko
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posted 04-28-2008 15:17     Click Here to See the Profile for niko     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure that NTSC or PAL or secam format still exists on dvd ? I know they were for VHS.

DVD are protected with a zone system, to avoid import dvd from one zone to another. there are 6 zone , and for instance North America is zone 1, Europe, Japan and South Africa are in zone 2, etc...
Some dvd are "multizone" (zone 0).
Anyway I live in France, I have no problems to watch dvd's bought from HomeSpun or Guitarvideos.com on a cheap dvd/divx player and an old TV. My TV is Pal/Secam/Ntsc, perhaps it is the most important ?
These DVD are also OK on every computer.

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Tark
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posted 04-28-2008 17:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Tark   Click Here to Email Tark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For all you Americans - Ricks question was for those who live OUTSIDE the US.
In fact all players sold in the UK for example, certainly in the last few years, are multi-format and will play PAL or NTSC video formats. Many players are even multi-region so they will even play DVDs that were coded for and sold into the US market. Its shipping home authored DVDs in the other direction across the pond that is the problem 'cos you Americans are so parochial your DVD players only handle NTSC.

As has already been said - computer software players don't care and will cope in any country with either format.

As I understand it, it's a little known fact that most film studio releases are neither NTSC or PAL but 24P despite what they may claim on the box. This the nearest video equivalent of film - film runs at 24 frames per second and each frame is just that - a full frame. 24P is the easiest and best way of transferring film to video. DVD players have been capable of taking 24P and outputing it in whatever is the required local format for quite some time. this is one of the reasons that major film studio DVDs always look so much better than anything else.

PAL is used in much of Europe although I think the French (and anywhere they have or had influence) are still stuck on their own ridiculous SECAM standard.

Then of course there's high definition ...

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Rick McKeon
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posted 04-28-2008 19:31     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick McKeon   Click Here to Email Rick McKeon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies everyone. I hope to get a bunch more replies so I can get a feel for what to ship. So far it's looking like the safest bet is to ship the format that is used in that country. Some people might have multi-format DVD players (like the ones sold in the UK in recent years - thanks Tark) but not all?

Rick

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fingerpickengood
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posted 04-29-2008 01:18     Click Here to See the Profile for fingerpickengood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rick,

I live on Aust, most (if not all) DVD players handle both formats.

Michael

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Thomas Rungstrøm
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posted 04-29-2008 03:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Thomas Rungstrøm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have bought a few titles from homespun, and have never had trouble with
the formats. Works perfect!


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Rick McKeon
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posted 04-29-2008 10:01     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick McKeon   Click Here to Email Rick McKeon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent feedback guys. I really appreciate it. I think I am going to do it like Homespun and produce them in NTSC only with a caution to those ordering to check and see if their players can handle it. I don't really have the means to test other formats and want all videos to be 100% tested before shipping.

Rick

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