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Chris Drew
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posted 04-28-2008 21:22     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris Drew   Click Here to Email Chris Drew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heard that 12-string guitars played by "pickers" rather than "strummers" benefit from having the octave string positioned towards the treble side of the guitar, rather than regular 12-string style.
( Not sure if I'm explaining this clearly... )
Like this ( low to high ):
Ee,Aa,Dd,Gg,BB,ee
rather than what's "normal" for a 12-string:
eE,aA,dD,gG,BB,ee

I'm asking because I'd like to experiment with a 12-string acoustic set up with a tall nut, is it worth swapping the strings around as I'll be playing with thumb&fingerpicks?
( I'll be cutting the nut myself so I guess I could make 2 nuts, one in each style, but you'll appreciate the hassle of restringing the thing if I make the wrong choice! )

Thanks for your help on this...

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PaulData
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posted 04-28-2008 21:33     Click Here to See the Profile for PaulData     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that Rickenbacker 12s are set up this way. I've never tried one like this, but would really like to. I may try it on one of my Taylors some time. Let us know how it works out if you try it!

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John Barleycorn
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posted 04-29-2008 01:27     Click Here to See the Profile for John Barleycorn   Click Here to Email John Barleycorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I made a new nut and saddle for a 12 some years ago when lowering the action for fingerpicking. I changed only the G course, from gG to Gg. The effect was to mute the shrillness of the high g on the thumbstrokes, which doesn't always sound right with alternate thumb picking. Picking upwards with a fingerstroke, the high g rings out clearly.

JB

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Fred Kinbom
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posted 04-29-2008 02:02     Click Here to See the Profile for Fred Kinbom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Chris,

I have one of these in the works too! I have asked someone else to cut the nut though, so I'm stuck with the "standard" string setup, but it sounded really cool when I tried playing the guitar lap slide with low action, so I hope it will sound fine.

Fred

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andreasaase
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posted 04-29-2008 02:19     Click Here to See the Profile for andreasaase   Click Here to Email andreasaase     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris,

My Fylde 12-string is set up the way you describe, and I think it works a lot better for fingerpicking.

Andreas : )

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Chris Drew
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posted 04-30-2008 00:22     Click Here to See the Profile for Chris Drew   Click Here to Email Chris Drew     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the help guys!

Fred, I can't wait to hear what you come up with on yours!
Please, let us know when you have a clip to post.

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blueshome2
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posted 04-30-2008 06:49     Click Here to See the Profile for blueshome2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Standard string pattern (not sizes & tuning) seemed to work fine fingerpicking for Blind Willie, Leadbelly, Rev.Davis,etc,etc. If you don't like the G octave replace it with a unison, this can sound ok. Still no harm in experimenting if it suits your playing.

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