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hey
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posted 04-28-2008 22:38     Click Here to See the Profile for hey   Click Here to Email hey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A while ago I was just talking music with someone and I remember him motioning of some old hill billy banjo player who picked it in the minor key, and described it as "haunting"... He sounded really interesting, but I cant remember his name.

I did a bunch of Google searches and cant find anything, so any ideas on who this could be?

Thanks.

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AJAzure
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posted 04-28-2008 23:01     Click Here to See the Profile for AJAzure   Click Here to Email AJAzure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
doc boggs maybe?

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stuart
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posted 04-28-2008 23:49     Click Here to See the Profile for stuart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And even if it isn't Dock Boggs, you should try to get hold of the Revenant re-issue of his early recordings.

http://www.revenantrecords.com/index.php?section=releases&cd_ident=2

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andrea bonino
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posted 04-29-2008 00:59     Click Here to See the Profile for andrea bonino   Click Here to Email andrea bonino     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey hey,

have a look at this film

searching for the wrong eyed jesus

there's some seriously haunting minor key banjo picking in there, and a beautiful movie as well

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andrea bonino
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posted 04-29-2008 01:18     Click Here to See the Profile for andrea bonino   Click Here to Email andrea bonino     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


can't find the snippet i was looking for, with Sixteen Horsepower playing Poor Wayfaring Stranger in the woods, but you can hear some of it on the film's website.. (follow 'musicians' and then 'Sixteen Horsepower')

here's a good live performance of his

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John Barleycorn
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posted 04-29-2008 01:42     Click Here to See the Profile for John Barleycorn   Click Here to Email John Barleycorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never mind the banjo - was that Harry Crews at 0:44 and 1:20?

JB

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andrea bonino
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posted 04-29-2008 01:55     Click Here to See the Profile for andrea bonino   Click Here to Email andrea bonino     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John Barleycorn:
Never mind the banjo - was that Harry Crews at 0:44 and 1:20?

JB


yep

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subtoxin
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posted 04-29-2008 02:50     Click Here to See the Profile for subtoxin   Click Here to Email subtoxin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris Whitley's 'Ball Peen Hammer' is played on banjo, minor key, very haunting. Off the album 'Dirt Floor.'

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RonE
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posted 04-29-2008 06:36     Click Here to See the Profile for RonE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im just taking a shot at it, have you heard of Billy Faier?
He is mentioned in Ramblin Jacks tune "912 greens".
He is an old Banjo wizard along the lines of Pete Seeger.--But he plays more instrumentals and some classical stuff. He can play anything!
On another note, George Winston put out this tune, "moon", Which is an fairly easy minor key tuning song that sounds great on banjo...just for ideas..

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Brian Alboucq
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posted 04-29-2008 09:05     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian Alboucq   Click Here to Email Brian Alboucq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I seem to remember that if you flat the b string. You will get the sound you are looking for. Check out Dwight Dillers instructional stuff.

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Chilbert
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posted 04-30-2008 20:33     Click Here to See the Profile for Chilbert   Click Here to Email Chilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That Chris Whitley tune (Ballpeen Hammer, from the DirtFloor recording) that Subtoxin mentioned can probably be played in several tunings which seem to be variations of the 'mountain minor' or 'sawmill' tuning, but according to all reports, Whitley played it in this tuning:

f C F G# C

So that's the way I try to play it too. It's an eerie tuning, and a haunting aire indeed. Semi-frailing style, with emphasis on the thumb on the bass strings to give it an Appalachian bluesy sound. The left hand is not too difficult, but the right hand requires some skill in order to get the Whitley feel to it. Joe Bonamassa actually covered this song pretty well on acoustic 12-string guitar, but I prefer CW's totally raw sound on the banjo from Dirt Floor.

BTW, if you do not already have that Whitley recording, you should get it.

I can approximately play exactly 5 songs on the banjo, and Ballpeen Hammer is my alltime favorite.

Chilly

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subtoxin
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posted 05-01-2008 01:06     Click Here to See the Profile for subtoxin   Click Here to Email subtoxin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before I heard that track I didn't care much for banjo music in general. It was an eye opener for me. I did enjoy that Jim White track, would like to see that movie. Been curious enough about banjos to consider picking one up. Since I'm a guitar player should I buy a 6 string (Banjitar) or would you recommend learning on the traditional 5 string model?

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Patrick_Costello
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posted 05-01-2008 02:38     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick_Costello   Click Here to Email Patrick_Costello     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just referencing a minor key tuning won't help much in identifying a banjo player.

For a quick lesson in frailing banjo in Gm tuning, check out The Daily Frail archives from February '08.

The Daily Frail 2/4/08
Gm tuning.
http://www.archive.org/details/TheDailyFrail2408


The Daily Frail 2/5/08
F chord in Gm tuning.
http://www.archive.org/details/TheDailyFrail2508

The Daily Frail 2/6/08
Sinner Man in Gm tuning.
http://www.archive.org/details/TheDailyFrail2608

The Daily Frail 2/7/08
Up the neck in Gm tuning.
http://www.archive.org/details/TheDailyFrail2708

The Daily Frail 2/8/08
Gm wrap up.
http://www.archive.org/details/TheDailyFrail2808

-Patrick
http://tangiersound.wordpress.com

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Patrick_Costello
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posted 05-01-2008 04:11     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick_Costello   Click Here to Email Patrick_Costello     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by subtoxin:
should I buy a 6 string (Banjitar) or would you recommend learning on the traditional 5 string model?

I'd go with the five-string. If you already play guitar the transition to five-string banjo should be pretty easy. The only trick is to approach the five-string on its own terms rather than treating it like a handicapped guitar.

I would also suggest giving the technique of frailing a serious look.

Frailing in a bluegrass context:

Frailing in a county blues - and bottleneck - context:

-Patrick
http://tangiersound.wordpress.com

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