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andrea bonino
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posted 04-30-2008 03:12     Click Here to See the Profile for andrea bonino   Click Here to Email andrea bonino     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1912485/Albert-Hofmann,-LSD-inventor,-die s.html

for inspiring deeply countless guitarists and musicians all over the globe,
(and for the books he wrote, and a lot of other things)

Thank you Albert!

from
http://www.hofmann.org/:

Dr. Albert Hofmann - January 11 1906 - April 29 2008

It saddens us to confirm that Dr. Albert Hofmann passed away at his home in Burg outside of Basel, Switzerland today, April 29 2008 at the age of 102 years. Dr. Hofmann was at his home with two of his care takers, he passed away at 9am local time.

Dr Hofmann follows his late wife Anita, who passed away this past December. We do not have much more information at the moment but we will update this note once more becomes available.

We send out condolences to his family and friends and as you all to join us in celebrating the life of one of the most important scientists of the last 102 years. Dr Hofmann's discoveries have touched countless people and brought tremendous change to the world in more ways than can be counted. We are very glad that Dr Hofmann could still witness the early stages of new studies with LSD that will start in Switzerland in the near future. This matter was very important to him, we are grateful to all that were involved in getting approval for this study.

We thank you for all you have done dear Dr Hofmann, may your ways be blessed and peaceful. We will keep your spirit alive and will continue with our work.

The Albert Hofmann Foundation

April 29 2008

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dogbite
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posted 04-30-2008 04:38     Click Here to See the Profile for dogbite   Click Here to Email dogbite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
have a nice trip Doctor. I did.

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ringfinger
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posted 04-30-2008 05:40     Click Here to See the Profile for ringfinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
C20H25N3O Doc.

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Paul Norman
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posted 04-30-2008 06:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Norman   Click Here to Email Paul Norman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah yes -

"It said, 'T-t-t-trip a t-trip, I trip, trip,'
I couldn't keep up up if I tried."

Thanks, Doc. Many a happy memory from your invention.

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RonE
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posted 04-30-2008 10:20     Click Here to See the Profile for RonE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, RIP
I'll never forget that 36 hours of crying, laughing, and wondering if I'll always stay this way...

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Stu Alt
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posted 04-30-2008 10:31     Click Here to See the Profile for Stu Alt   Click Here to Email Stu Alt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was quite the scientific explorer and very interested in the altered states achieved by consuming certain plants.

His team at Sandoz was the first to synthesize psilocybin, the primary active hallucinogen in "magic mushrooms". He also isolated the active hallucinogenic compound from morning glory seeds.

I would suspect however, that the long term contribution of hallucinogens to music is rather minimal. It could make for some entertaining jams though, if you could still remember how to play while you were peaking.

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Michael Cefola
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posted 04-30-2008 11:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Cefola   Click Here to Email Michael Cefola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stu Alt:
I would suspect however, that the long term contribution of hallucinogens to music is rather minimal. It could make for some entertaining jams though, if you could still remember how to play while you were peaking.


I disagree. How many musicians out there are familiar with, and influenced by the music of The Beatles, Grateful Dead, Hendrix, The Doors, etc? Sure it's not a direct link, but you could certainly argue that anyone influenced by the music of an artist who used hallucinogens, is in some way influenced by the hallucinogen as well.

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Stu Alt
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quote:
Originally posted by Michael Cefola:
you could certainly argue that anyone influenced by the music of an artist who used hallucinogens, is in some way influenced by the hallucinogen as well.

Hey Michael,

I'm not sure that's a logical argument. If you substituted "ate organic food", "rode in an airplane" "had sex with multiple partners" or any number of other activities for "used hallucinogens", the fallacy becomes apparent.

No doubt many of those dudes took hallucinogens. How many of their songs were actually written under the influence? How many studio sessions were taped while the artists were under the influence? I've seen the Dead multiple times when I assumed they were high and occasionally they sucked.

Association is not causation. Because good, creative musicians took LSD doesn't prove that the drug made them either good or creative.

Perhaps a few had their creative juices stimulated by LSD, but overall I suspect the impact was less than we choose to romanticize.

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PaulData
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"He remained convinced that the drug had the potential to counter the psychological problems induced by Òmaterialism, alienation from nature through industrialisation and increasing urbanisation, lack of satisfaction in professional employment in a mechanised, lifeless working world, ennui and purposelessness in wealthy, saturated society, and lack of a religious, nurturing, and meaningful philosophical foundation of lifeÓ. Wow... I wish... I often wonder how my own psyche was long-term affected by the stuff???

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RonE
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posted 04-30-2008 14:18     Click Here to See the Profile for RonE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like that part about "alienation from nature".
Every time I took "liberty caps" (a mushroom), I always felt in complete contact with the natural world. Not society, but the actual earth.
I believe cool "ideas" happen, but you have to wait to come down, and run the idea by yourself again to compare. Its not for everyone, you can't take it too seriously.
Its as illusionary as any other reality.

Here's one, I realized that all reptiles are laughing all the time! (except when you look at them).

I wonder if he did like Huxley, and took a hit right before he left?

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Stu Alt
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Good luck, if you expect one substance to cure humanity of existential alienation. Modern humans seem to be alienated from nature, the spirit, society and the self. Twenty-first Century Schizoid Man? (Trying to keep it musical!)

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Speaking for myself, I can't measure the influence that hallucinogens had on my formative years. The music I have made is what it is because who I am. I am who I am partly from the experiences of those many trips. It was not all laughing and colors, there was much to be felt and thought out, my beliefs and the actions are I think more positive from that influence. I don't recommend it but I don't regret it at all. It's kind of like being a WW1 biplane pilot, a rare experience of but a few but you would not go back to do it again.
Thank you Dr. Hoffman, for leading the way.

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Mike Neer
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I read a great interview with him in Omni magazine about 25 years ago. It detailed his discovery of LSD. Very interesting article about a more interesting drug.

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Dennis Roger Reed
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I always hoped that the reason that the lyrics for Light My Fire were so insipid was because Robbie was on acid, but it turns out it was just the first song he wrote.

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RIP Albert.......

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sam
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RIP

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andrea bonino
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posted 05-01-2008 00:47     Click Here to See the Profile for andrea bonino   Click Here to Email andrea bonino     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stu Alt:
Good luck, if you expect one substance to cure humanity of existential alienation. Modern humans seem to be alienated from nature, the spirit, society and the self. Twenty-first Century Schizoid Man? (Trying to keep it musical!)


i think you are right Stu. That was more or less the position of a certain Timothy Leary during the 1960s, and we all know what kind of mess his propaganda put on the table. It seems to me that that alienation we are talking about has been built way back. it comes from centuries of seeing nature plainly as resource to exploit, seeing women as subordinate to men and female power as something to suppress at any cost.. and from promoting division between human beings at any time, through religion, race, politics, sports, sexual orientation, music preferences, you name it..
as much as i believe psychedelics can be helpful at times, because they can be a sort of shock-therapy-wake up-call that us Westerners need badly after all that screwing up that has been done to our minds for generations, i wouldn't recommend them to anyone under the age of 40, as Robert Anton Williams did. People need to be more stabilized and grounded to be able to travel safely through those dimensions. but in an awful lot of places and cultures around the world humans have used certain plants and mushrooms in a respectful and careful way for thousands of years, with focus on personal and communal healing. I think Dr Hofmann was trying to tell us that. I met him and his wife Anita one afternoon years ago. He was 88 years old and didn't look older that 65. His wife was just as lively and gentle. I felt like one must feel in presence of a saint, or a person of a very powerful spiritual presence.

I don't think it's a random coincidence the fact that music plays a great part in all those ancient-healing-shamanic-rituals that are found in Africa, America, Asia, Europe and Oceania..

because music itself is the most powerful of all substances, and also possibly the best remedy for back pain, toothache, flu, impotence, alienation...

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quote:
Originally posted by PaulData:
"He remained convinced that the drug had the potential to counter the psychological problems induced by Òmaterialism, alienation from nature through industrialisation and increasing urbanisation, lack of satisfaction in professional employment in a mechanised, lifeless working world, ennui and purposelessness in wealthy, saturated society, and lack of a religious, nurturing, and meaningful philosophical foundation of lifeÓ.

Wow... I wish... I often wonder how my own psyche was long-term affected by the stuff???


watching the news I believe the world is experiencing these things he mentions. they are increasing at an alarming rate. I beleive the whole world needs a dose. and fast.

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Mankind has a long, sad history of trying to find enlightenment through hallucinogenic substances of all kinds. That quest has often ended badly for both the individual and those around them. I see no long-term benefit to humanity of Dr. Hoffman's work with LSD. I'll take a beautiful beach, a soft breeze, and a sunset over a drug experience any day of the week.

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As a former tripper I can tell you assuredly acid is not the answer - certainly not to the world's ills.

But, it might have been a useful tool for a whole lot more folks than those who actually used it.

Trying to explain a full-blown trip where the curtains are waving at you to come over and dance with them (trying to get to sleep after a Robin Trower concert - '79) or having a road you're walking next to turn into a dirt track and all the cars look like wooden carriages (walking to a friend's house - '80) was always going to be the biggest obstacle.

Leary was a dope in his whole "Solemn Eastern" approach, Ken Kesey and his Pranksters were on the right trail (*Loosen Up Society* !) but then they started dosing unsuspecting folks which is the worst thing in the world and they were giving it to really young kids which is criminal.

Musically the Dead epitomized (to me) "acid music", meaning music you'd want to hear while stoned. They always gave you something to hold onto wheras I think early Foyd or Tangerine Dream or King Crimson was music for straights to try imagine they were stoned and a lot of it wasn't comforting (which can be very important). CCR used to work really well too...

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I actually can imagine a more formal use of LSD. I think that every psychiatrist should have to use it at least once in training. I believe that what I experienced as a tripper was very close to - if not exactly - a form of psychosis. I suspect that psychotic people have no filtering mechanism for the various stimuli we experience. I think that they are constantly bombarded by all of their senses at once. Hearing, sight, smell, taste, and touch are experienced all at once instead of selectively.

Best band for tripping in the 60's - the Jefferson Airplane. I still listen to them from time to time. Of course, that led me to Hot Tuna and an appreciation for finger style guitar. Definitely a trip worth the taking.

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Hoffman can't be held accountable for bad acid influenced music any more than Oppenheimer can be blamed for blowing up two cities in Japan.

Acid was what is was and is. Although I know many disagree, I personally find the Beatles acid influenced music to be their nadir, and I think most would agree that the Stones Satanic Majesties is a mess.

Tim Leary said a lot of nonsense, but he also had some very astute observations hidden within the crap. Most people only watched the news coverage, but if you read some of his writing, he had a good mind that got twisted not only by his drug use, but by the enormous amount of crap that celebrity brings in the US. I especially like the story of how he was tested upon entry into prison by a personality test that he had written in his days at Harvard. He passed.

LSD and the various relatives could have a major benefit to us, but unfortunately in labeling these types of drugs as dope, the US ended any real research on what benefits might be found. In our cultural haste to ban things that we assume are bad for us, we often overlook valuable information, or eliminate the ability to obtain valuable information.

RIP Mr. Hoffman

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